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    #31
    Forage I think your off the mark on Incorporating. Yes, we all went that route but let's look at this from a liberal mindset. They will win again so here is my take.

    Every farmer and small business set up corporations.

    skippy knows who has cash and who doesn't and who votes for him and who doesn't.

    Nail the farmer and small business just enough so they don't hang themselves.

    Give to the voters in Toronto and Montreal.

    What are we going to do he will have a mandate.

    I think the set up of Corporations by most small businesses and farms was planned not for our well-being but the government.

    Just looking at this whole big mess from a voter standpoint. Skippy wants to keep the crown.

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      #32
      How long will it take before the rapid pace of price increases reduce consumption? Talking to one salesman, grain augers went up 8% on Jan. 1, the most recent cost from suppliers they are up another 9%. My neighbours daughter is building a house this summer, lumber yards price won’t last for 2 weeks, basically only quote for today. Son in law is a machinist, price of steel and other metals going crazy he said last night. I bought some hydraulic oil yesterday at UFA. The Shell S4 tmx was $68 for a pail, Chevron thf 1000 which I usually use was $131. Same spec, makes no sense. My door on my Versatile tractor shattered a couple weeks ago, all we did was shut the door. Phoned the dealer to order one, he figured 10 business days. Phones back 4 days later said he couldn’t get one until June!!! I said wtf! Started phoning Versatile dealers in Alberta, I found one 3 1/2 hours away and I hopped in the truck and went and got it. Crazy world right now.

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        #33
        Not sure how long these high commodity prices will last but it could be the 80's all over again in the next stage.
        Lay in more welding rods every time there's a sale....and don't sell all your scrap metal

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          #34
          I bought a Case in combine at a sale this spring. I have been fixing a few odds and ends on it. It had a few bent teeth on the auger of the pick up header. So I bought 4 yesterday, they were $55 a piece, my eye’s almost popped out of my head, seems a bit rich!!!

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            #35
            Originally posted by SASKFARMER View Post
            Forage I think your off the mark on Incorporating. Yes, we all went that route but let's look at this from a liberal mindset. They will win again so here is my take.

            Every farmer and small business set up corporations.

            skippy knows who has cash and who doesn't and who votes for him and who doesn't.

            Nail the farmer and small business just enough so they don't hang themselves.

            Give to the voters in Toronto and Montreal.

            What are we going to do he will have a mandate.

            I think the set up of Corporations by most small businesses and farms was planned not for our well-being but the government.

            Just looking at this whole big mess from a voter standpoint. Skippy wants to keep the crown.


            I incorporated several years ago on the advise of my accountant to say tax dollars.

            Will this government reduce the capital gains exemption, increase the tax on investment income or just increase the federal tax on corporation, tough for them to go after the backbone of Canada, but all cards are on the table.

            My thoughts are if they were to go reduce or eliminate the capital gain exemption on corporations they would also have to tax individuals on the capital gains they have made on their personal home sale.

            When the Liberals floated the idea a couple years of going after corporate investment income, they were bombard with emails, texts, and phone calls from white collar corporations (doctor and lawyer). The Liberals back peddled very quickly on that idea.

            With the Covid produced deficit, who knows.

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              #36
              Who says you have to sell it all? Maybe we will have a poor year one of these years and the bins will empty out. The taxes will balance themselves!

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                #37
                Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
                Who says you have to sell it all? Maybe we will have a poor year one of these years and the bins will empty out. The taxes will balance themselves!
                Hoping for a poor crop to sell the old crop. I'd wish you Good Luck with this years crop but maybe that would be the wrong thing for me to say to you.


                "Taxes will balance themselves" I guess just like the "Budget will balance it's self"

                Hope you have a bin buster!

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                  #38
                  This amazing price run-up is making many assumptions . . . .

                  1. Debt doesn’t matter.

                  2. The economy is starting a new sustainable growth period.

                  3.Stocks only go up. This fattens bank profits nicely.

                  4. Earnings and economic fundamentals ‘don’t matter’. Be damned economic reality.

                  5. The Fed always has the investor back and won’t allow stocks to drop. Big brother is there to protect.

                  6. There are no negative consequences to easy money. What can possibly go wrong??

                  If you believe all of the above, then you are parked right in-tune with the masses, the banks, the hedge funds . . . . the investing herd.

                  And you know, when it comes to markets, it is said; there is safety in numbers. How could the masses possibly be wrong??

                  What do you think? Where will markets be by fall. Will the Candyman still be riding tall?

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                    #39
                    Nobody is hoping for a poor crop. But what is the difference between having money sitting in a bank account, or money sitting in bins? At the rate the economy is going, I feel it is better sitting in the bin. Think of buying more bins like paying the monthly fee on a bank account/trading account. The appreciation of the grain in those bins by holding the grain to this rally has more than paid any extra tax, as well as for the bin. Can holding money in your bank account do that?

                    Glad you also caught my little jab at Trudeau. You are a spry one!

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                      #40
                      Ask farmers in Argentina how important grain in the bin is.
                      Argentine pesos are hot potatoes

                      Of course, putting money to work at something worthwhile and even profitable is never a bad thing....

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
                        But what is the difference between having money sitting in a bank account, or money sitting in bins?
                        If corp tax rates go to 28% like Biden is pitching, then storing grain in the face of that with a devaluing currency makes it a different decision.

                        Taking that tax hit and then struggling to finding a productive home for the cash may make less sense than just holding the grain and borrowing against it.

                        I should add that if we do see a hard event of some sort, stored grain is going to be a lot more valuable than any other asset I can think of including Bitcoin, gold, equities etc. And if the carbon tax gets too high, we can always burn the grain for heat.
                        Last edited by jazz; Apr 17, 2021, 09:33.

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                          #42
                          Interesting perspective jazz. Never thought of doing that, but taking that one step further, had a guy done just that and borrowed against the grain and put it in the stock market a few years ago, I might be looking for a private island now!

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
                            Interesting perspective jazz. Never thought of doing that, but taking that one step further, had a guy done just that and borrowed against the grain and put it in the stock market a few years ago, I might be looking for a private island now!
                            When I had my account at BMO they had an instrument to borrow against stored inventory. I never used it or inquired about it. I mean RBC lets you borrow against gold as long as they hold it for you.

                            I have neighbors that store canary and flax for yrs. Met a guy last fall had 5 yrs of durum stored. Other neighbor stored all that fusarium durum for a few yrs and then trickled it into the market.

                            But flea, forage is perhaps right. Even if you are holding future inventory, it probably makes more sense to hold that in a corp than personally. You have sort of locked yourself into an eventual big tax hit personally unless you will the grain to your kids or something.
                            Last edited by jazz; Apr 17, 2021, 09:43.

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                              #44
                              What good are dollars if there is nothing left to buy? Availability of tangibles is terrible and getting worse. Dollars only come into existence with debt, if debts aren't paid what value do dollars have? Dollars are not wealth only a claim on wealth and that claim is fickle. We are in a fickle pickle.
                              Last edited by biglentil; Apr 17, 2021, 10:12.

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                                #45
                                This is an interesting take, discusses japan like errol pointed out. The M2 velocity chart would support that deflation is the eventual likely outcome.

                                https://www.treasuryandrisk.com/2020/04/28/who-will-thrive-in-the-coming-deflation/?slreturn=20210317131610

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