43 year old gets stroke.

[burnt]

This one. I think your picture should show up. Take care.

Thank you. Yes, I kinda thought that one was special.

I didn't speak of her as a "Biden girl" though, so it threw me off a bit. Or did you detect Joe's nose tracks in her hair?

However, in today's world, wouldn't that be considered sort of demeaning for such a lady, no? Or is that language okay in your camp?

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I don't want to go searching for handles that believe these covid-19 vaccines were developed too fast, and how they could possibly be safe because they were rushed into arms, but here is a good article that explains it was not a fluke reinvention of the wheel.

www.nature.com/articles/d4/586-029-03626-1

From December 18,2020. Titled: The lightning - fast quest for Covid vaccines - and what it means for other diseases.

I remember lining up for the cowpox vaccine scratch in the real early 1960's. I believe it started in Canada in 1946 and went through into the mid 1970's. It was because your parents, or grandparents took the scratch that smallpox was eradicated, and you are not fighting that battle, or have the battle scar.

One good thing about the scar. The vaccine injectors don't have to put a target circle on your upper arm to hit the muscle.

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Ah!, burnt.

I believe I can be flowery, at times. Nothing like Parsley. Where is that woman to set us straight?

[flea beetle]

so they didn't even complete phase 3 trials, yet allowed the vaccine to be administered? Yeah, so much for following regular protocol.

Funny you just skipped over and ignored this little tidbit. Could it be because it makes everything you have said in this thread worthless?

[fjlip]

"how they could possibly be safe because they were rushed into arms" Who the h*ll made EVERYONE in media use THE ARMS? How about into your whole body, all your blood, brain, organs!

Just to mute any real thoughts of doubt. Oh it's only sitting in my ARM! Sickening

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Funny you just skipped over and ignored this little tidbit. Could it be because it makes everything you have said in this thread worthless?

Flea, flea, flea.

You worry too much about your shadow. I've heard you for months. You keep repeating yourself. It's too much of a risk for you, I get it. Hopefully you will allow your family members to decide for themselves, and you will stay to hell out of the way trying to influence them, and think nothing worse of them if they choose to go the majority route. I have retired (although that is a joke when you live on a farm) friends that believe exactly like you. I don't know how it is going to shake out for them because they both love to world travel. Maybe it will be, if she is even allowed entry, "i'll swing by in two weeks, and pick you at the quarantine hotel".
Back in the day of the installation of the Alliance pipeline that paralleled the Cochin pipeline, that paralled and intersected multiple oil crossing company lines, and back in the day when it actually rained around here, there were things called proximity agreements. Every company that was within distance of the project, and there was five of them were on site observing Alliance proceedings. A certain contract company with a vac truck planted himself between these right-of-ways. Procedure was, nobody crosses another company's right-of-way with any thing more than a skid steer. Well, a skid steer was not going to budge that vac truck. A decision was made with the comment, "you can not yell "whoa" in the middle of a mud hole. A cat went over those lines, and pulled the truck out. Covid is our plucking mud hole

[flea beetle]

Now that you are done your useless drivel, care to comment on how they skipped over phase 3 testing and sent the vaccine out to be administered? Since your side is saying that the vaccine has been tested to regular safety standards and all.

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Now that you are done your useless drivel, care to comment on how they skipped over phase 3 testing and sent the vaccine out to be administered? Since your side is saying that the vaccine has been tested to regular safety standards and all.

No, flea.

I'm saying there is only a risk-reward standard to this. If you are smart, that is your only metric to everything in life. I want to be able to continue mine, even though you think older people are expendable.
There is no side to this. You are brainwashed, and delusional if you believe that tripe.

[flea beetle]

And where did I say older people were expendable? Wow, you need some reading comprehension lessons...

I have always maintained: if you want to get the shot, go ahead and get it. If you don’t, then don’t.

What I have been saying, is that I feel that the vax is untested to regular safety standards. And thanks to DML for providing the link to prove that is in fact true. So why is your side so hell bent on trying to coerce people to take an untested vax?

Risk/reward as you say. I believe the risk of an untested vax is worse than a disease that you have to get tested in order to find out if you have it.

And again with your reading comprehension skills, my family has the flu vax, since it is tested and proven safe. I don’t choose for anybody what they do to their own body, and you shouldn’t try to either.

[dmlfarmer]

Now that you are done your useless drivel, care to comment on how they skipped over phase 3 testing and sent the vaccine out to be administered? Since your side is saying that the vaccine has been tested to regular safety standards and all.

They did not skimp over phase 3 testing it is ongoing. The same way as if you have not sold all your 2020 crop does not mean you skipped growing a crop in 2020.

[farming101]

.....a disease that you have to get tested in order to find out if you have it.

Flea why do you say that? There are 588 people on ventilators in Ontario hospitals. No test needed now...

[farming101]

Okay

[jazz]

The most important part of phase 3 testing is time. Time enough to efficacy and safety profile fully established. Now we have a vaccine that after just 6 months is waning in immunity for even the original strain and basically a coin toss against any of the variants.

We might be looking at a big do over coming up this fall. These companies are likely to have boosters and their original vaccine still in Phase 3 trials and another mass vaccine effort underway. Even with an effective booster, it will take 2 yrs t get that into the world arms. After 5 months, the vaccinated stand at only 850M as of today and thats not even second doses.

They should devote some of that warp speed money back to preventative the****utics right now. They will never keep up to this.

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[QUOTE=flea beetle;494279]And where did I say older people were expendable?

Congratulations. That just puts you on the outs with with your cult buddies. Lets work down the list and see where jwab stands on the issue.

I don't have to ask jazz because he already said if covid-19 was the lead story Jan 1, 2021, he would delete his account. He's gone, isn't he?

[flea beetle]

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And where did I say older people were expendable?

Congratulations. That just puts you on the outs with with your cult buddies. Lets work down the list and see where jwab stands on the issue.

I don't have to ask jazz because he already said if covid-19 was the lead story Jan 1, 2021, he would delete his account. He's gone, isn't he?

No offence, but WTF are you talking about?