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    Originally posted by jazz View Post
    The age limit is down to 40 in Ontario meaning almost the entire HoC can get it. lets see if Trudeau comes out of his spider hole to roll up his sleeves.
    NEVER ever would I believe that Son of a B*tch took anything in that 2" needle! Or maybe a good wallop of heroine. Lies, TV propaganda, virtue signal for the SHEEP!

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      Is this why all still have to wear a mask?
      How many more got a shot of nothing?

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        I don’t really feel threatened by a cold or the flu, and sure would be squeamish watching and wondering if this experiment sours. I’m not one to smell every fart that flies by me. 🐎✅ Have smelled a few but not all.

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          2 yr Died in Phizer Vaccine test. Yuk
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            Originally posted by burnt View Post
            You are either badly uninformed about the regular testing protocol, or a remorseless liar.

            Either way, your credibility is shot.
            As bad as yours?

            There is still Phase 1 testing with similar numbers of people. There is still phase 2 testing with similar numbers of people. There is still phase 3 testing, however instead of variable numbers of volunteers, which ranged from a thousand to tens of thousands the FDA asked for 30,000. Changes that were made at the testing stage dealt with monitoring and recording of the trials. Because of the transmissibility of Covid remote monitoring of the trial was allowed. Another change allowed was letting a company to begin the next phase of testing before the previous phase was completed. This does not mean the protocol was skipped; simply the time frame was shortened. The biggest change was allowing companies to submit data as it was collected to health agencies until waiting until testing to be completed and submitting the entire package to be submitted at once. But that does not change the data, only the reporting of it.

            These changes were instituted under the direction of Trump's Warp Speed in order to get the vaccines as quickly as possible. But there is still the same amount of testing on people, and the same oversight by Health Agencies in each country before the vaccines are approved.

            Here is how Warp Speed tightened the timeline.
            https://media.defense.gov/2020/Aug/13/2002476369/-1/-1/0/200813-D-ZZ999-100.JPG https://media.defense.gov/2020/Aug/13/2002476369/-1/-1/0/200813-D-ZZ999-100.JPG

            So why don't you tell us how what I claim is wrong and where the protocals re actual testing have changed if you want to have any credibility

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              Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
              DML it isn’t vaccines we are questioning. It is unproven/untested vaccines that we are questioning.

              Care to answer the bolded question since forage ran away?
              Isn't trying to thwart health canada's testing procedures more anti-science than waiting for them to go through their normal procedure?
              Sure I will answer that. The Pharmaceutical companies are not trying to "thwart" Health Canada. As I explained above the companies are doing the same amount of human testing they have done for other vaccines. There has never been a requirement for vaccines to be tested in Canada, only that Health Canada is presented with a complete application and data from testing be presented before Health Canada will approve a vaccine for use in Canada. The Trump government instituted Operation Warp Speed which was intended to shorten the time period it takes to bring a vaccine to market WITHOUT NEGATIVLY IMPACTING SAFETY OR EFFICACY TRIALS. The same science is being used in testing as well as the same science is used in evaluation of the trials and data that has always been used. Here I thought Agrivillers would appreciate a more efficient government system built to work faster but apparently you prefer the inefficiency of traditional government approval processes.

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                https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/two-year-old-virginia-die-vaccine/

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                  So it begs the question, if this is in fact all true, why is it labeled an emergency approval rather than just a regular approval?

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                    Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
                    So it begs the question, if this is in fact all true, why is it labeled an emergency approval rather than just a regular approval?
                    Here is the answer to your question direct from FDA https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained

                    Also verifies what I said earlier about testing for safety and effectiveness
                    Last edited by dmlfarmer; Apr 20, 2021, 22:13.

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                      so they didn't even complete phase 3 trials, yet allowed the vaccine to be administered? Yeah, so much for following regular protocol.

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