43 year old gets stroke.

[farming101]

.....a disease that you have to get tested in order to find out if you have it.

Flea why do you say that? There are 588 people on ventilators in Ontario hospitals. No test needed now...

[farming101]

Okay

[jazz]

The most important part of phase 3 testing is time. Time enough to efficacy and safety profile fully established. Now we have a vaccine that after just 6 months is waning in immunity for even the original strain and basically a coin toss against any of the variants.

We might be looking at a big do over coming up this fall. These companies are likely to have boosters and their original vaccine still in Phase 3 trials and another mass vaccine effort underway. Even with an effective booster, it will take 2 yrs t get that into the world arms. After 5 months, the vaccinated stand at only 850M as of today and thats not even second doses.

They should devote some of that warp speed money back to preventative the****utics right now. They will never keep up to this.

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[QUOTE=flea beetle;494279]And where did I say older people were expendable?

Congratulations. That just puts you on the outs with with your cult buddies. Lets work down the list and see where jwab stands on the issue.

I don't have to ask jazz because he already said if covid-19 was the lead story Jan 1, 2021, he would delete his account. He's gone, isn't he?

[flea beetle]

[QUOTE=checking;494361]

And where did I say older people were expendable?

Congratulations. That just puts you on the outs with with your cult buddies. Lets work down the list and see where jwab stands on the issue.

I don't have to ask jazz because he already said if covid-19 was the lead story Jan 1, 2021, he would delete his account. He's gone, isn't he?

No offence, but WTF are you talking about?

[flea beetle]

Flea why do you say that? There are 588 people on ventilators in Ontario hospitals. No test needed now...

But how many people have been tested and tested positive with no or very little symptoms? How many people have had it and didn't even know they had it? I am guessing many multiples of thousands.

I am willing to bet that there are at least double the amount of positive cases than actually caught. Most, if not all, of those didn't even know they had it.

[flea beetle]

They did not skimp over phase 3 testing it is ongoing. The same way as if you have not sold all your 2020 crop does not mean you skipped growing a crop in 2020.

Phase 3 is "ongoing" but there is a vaccine in how many millions of people already? NOT NORMAL TESTING METHODS! Not even close.

[farming101]

But how many people have been tested and tested positive with no or very little symptoms? How many people have had it and didn't even know they had it? I am guessing many multiples of thousands.

I am willing to bet that there are at least double the amount of positive cases than actually caught. Most, if not all, of those didn't even know they had it.

Yes it is reasonable to think that not all cases have come forward for a test.

[burnt]

Yes it is reasonable to think that not all cases have come forward for a test.

Several of the closely-knit communities in this part of the Province have had it sweep thru their families and had only a few tested as required by regulations for their work. So how does one put a percentage on those folks?

No deaths, only cases from no symptoms to heavy colds.

In another instance, an entire family of 5 or 6 had to be tested for international travel. They had both the PCR and antigen test, the latter of which showed antibodies for all of them.

They remember having a cold last fall. Had they not traveled since then, they would not have known they ever had the Wuhan virus.

It's making the rounds in our rural area now, with a few neighbours contracting it. Loss of sense of smell, taste and bad headaches.

Most that I know are being smart about their interactions.

How is it spreading?

The actual infection rate could be 10 times higher than "tests" show.

And then there is the matter of false positives...

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[QUOTE=jwab;494384]

The usual pokes, anyone who has to come on a forum to brag about their sales is usually insecure.
I don’t make time for that type in real life, it’s no different here.

And you are a sweetheart, jwab.
Listen, this is a marketing thread. I greatly appreciate a fellow farmer like bucket who will share what the flax market is up to in his area. He has made this farm more dollars, just on his commentary of that market than even he might imagine. Thank you, bucket. (cheque is in the mail!).
Granted, I could have indicated what a piddle amount of soybean sales nets $50,000.00, because that is a necessary math part, but the over riding point was that you could not get me down with your vaccine view. It's an analogy lesson that that happens everyday in real life that you should make time for.
We, finally, have matched, maybe even exceeded what burnt realized for his Ontario beans, months ago. It only took a 120 year old, state after state freeze the third week of April to bring it about. Buyers still won't par prairie beans to eastern beans.
Now granted , jwab, you at least are up to speed over flea beetle. He doesn't understand analogies, only WTF, he has been distracted by chasing yet another squirrel.