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    #76
    Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
    Texas and Mississippi have the lowest cases in a year. This is a month after they lifted mask mandates.

    Chuck, ag star, dml, tweety?

    Why?
    Note when the mask restriction came off. Masks and ramping up of vax is the reason for the drop. Jeez, this stuff isn't that complicated. Also most are still wearing a mask like service industry etc. Its only been a few days, time will tell.

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      #77
      Originally posted by tweety View Post
      Note when the mask restriction came off. Masks and ramping up of vax is the reason for the drop. Jeez, this stuff isn't that complicated. Also most are still wearing a mask like service industry etc. Its only been a few days, time will tell.

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      It’s been a month, dude. And your response was predictable, towing the narrative line always works. And no, people aren’t generally wearing masks. Can you show a chart of the mask states beside the non mask states and explain why Texan numbers are dropping while mask states skyrocket?

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        #78
        "the flu" Is THE or many variants? Some years they totally MISS the "flu" and people DIE anyway, shot or no shot.

        Another question, why the H are these NEEDLES so LONG? I don't have that much meat/muscle!

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          #79
          No pain No gain!l.o.l.

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            #80
            So you put out the 1 in 20 needing hospitalization stat, get called on it, and then while your hands of it saying it wasn’t your stat?

            Should we be saying BS checking now?

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              #81
              Wash* Sorry, no edit button

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                #82
                “The flu doesn’t “require” anything. It is a choice to get it. And nobody asks you if you have had it in order to do anything else in your life“

                So your issue is the idea that they could make a certificate required for certain travelling or events. Not the fact that it’s most likely going to require annual boosters to have any kind of efficacy.

                Don’t make the two things into one thing. There are many vaccines that are most effective with yearly boosters. Ask the livestock people. The fact Covid could be most effective with yearly boosters shouldn’t be an issue, it’s not a surprise. If someone is surprised that a vaccine requires annual boosters then they aren’t as well read as they may think.

                Still not the same issue as a requirement of proof of vaccination.

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                  #83
                  I have never said that, but some probably have.

                  My issue is that the shot could become mandatory, is untested, and travel/movement within the country could be restricted if you don’t have the shot. Along with whatever liberties they see fit to take away down the line.

                  Give an inch, take a mile as the saying goes.

                  Travel already restricted between Quebec and Ontario.

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                    #84
                    Not to mention the crazies are saying I have to get it so they can feel safe. If you have your vaccination, aren’t you safe already?

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                      #85
                      Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
                      Texas and Mississippi have the lowest cases in a year. This is a month after they lifted mask mandates.

                      Chuck, ag star, dml, tweety?

                      Why?
                      Well, I have no way to know where you base your claim that those two states have the lowest number of cases in a year. But the New York Times tracker actually shows case numbers are rising in both states - the rolling average is up 8% in Mississippi and up 5% in Texas over the last 14 days. So yesterday's case numbers (most recent data) cannot be the lowest in a year. Here is the actual numbers for Mississippi:
                      AVG. ON APR. 17 14-DAY CHANGE
                      Cases 242 +8%
                      Hospitalized 234 –11%
                      Tests 1,229 –27%

                      What is really interesting is that the number of tests conducted is down 27%. That leads the question of how accurate the case numbers are. Have the state backed off on testing to keep case numbers down? Have people decided not to get tested as there is no longer a mandate that you have to be tested given the relaxation of the rules? Are asymptomical carriers not being caught because there is no longer contact tracing?

                      Second, a little more than 10% of Mississippi residents have had a confirmed case of Covid. Nearly 30% of the population have had at least 1 vaccination so 40% of Mississippi residents have at least some immunity. I should hope that case numbers would be going down given this immunity.

                      Texas data shows 13% of Texans have been confirmed to have Covid and 35% have had at least one vaccination, so the same applies. Cases should be slowing.

                      In Canada we have had neither the percentage of population infected nor the vaccination levels so of course the risk of spread is higher here and so there is still more reliance on masks and social distancing until we get more vaccinations.

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by tweety View Post
                        Note when the mask restriction came off. Masks and ramping up of vax is the reason for the drop. Jeez, this stuff isn't that complicated. Also most are still wearing a mask like service industry etc. Its only been a few days, time will tell.

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                        Its been over 6 weeks, how much longer do we need to wait for the "Neanderthal" spike?
                        If masks work, why aren't they working in all the third wave regions?
                        If lockdowns work, why do we need continual lockdowns?
                        Michigan has a 1/3 of Texas's population, but 3 times more cases.
                        Some of you lockdown cultists need to start explaining some of this.

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                          Well, I have no way to know where you base your claim that those two states have the lowest number of cases in a year. But the New York Times tracker actually shows case numbers are rising in both states - the rolling average is up 8% in Mississippi and up 5% in Texas over the last 14 days. So yesterday's case numbers (most recent data) cannot be the lowest in a year. Here is the actual numbers for Mississippi:
                          AVG. ON APR. 17 14-DAY CHANGE
                          Cases 242 +8%
                          Hospitalized 234 –11%
                          Tests 1,229 –27%

                          What is really interesting is that the number of tests conducted is down 27%. That leads the question of how accurate the case numbers are. Have the state backed off on testing to keep case numbers down? Have people decided not to get tested as there is no longer a mandate that you have to be tested given the relaxation of the rules? Are asymptomical carriers not being caught because there is no longer contact tracing?

                          Second, a little more than 10% of Mississippi residents have had a confirmed case of Covid. Nearly 30% of the population have had at least 1 vaccination so 40% of Mississippi residents have at least some immunity. I should hope that case numbers would be going down given this immunity.

                          Texas data shows 13% of Texans have been confirmed to have Covid and 35% have had at least one vaccination, so the same applies. Cases should be slowing.

                          In Canada we have had neither the percentage of population infected nor the vaccination levels so of course the risk of spread is higher here and so there is still more reliance on masks and social distancing until we get more vaccinations.
                          Cool... now do Michigan

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Jordy2323 View Post
                            Cool... now do Michigan
                            Be glad to. I will highlight the differences:

                            First, Michigan has about 8% of population confirmed to have had covid, so significantly fewer cases than Mississippi or Texas. That have roughly the same number of vaccinations as Texas however so they are basically 5% points more exposed than Texas.

                            But the real difference is that while testing is down 27% over the past two weeks in Mississippi, it is up 19% in Michigan. So it is likely more cases are identified.

                            Another point to consider is that while Texas and Mississippi are considered open, Michigan is not all that far behind. Yes, Michigan has a mask mandate which the other two don't, but beyond that Michigan is much more relaxed than most of Canada. Here is what is open and closed in Michigan
                            What’s open
                            Retail Retail stores
                            Food and drink Indoor dining; bars
                            Personal care Pet groomers; hair salons, barbershops, nail salons, tattoo parlors
                            Houses of worship
                            Entertainment Bowling alleys; casinos; movie theaters; theaters; performance venues; arcades; amusement parks
                            Outdoor and recreation Golf courses, marinas; pools; gyms
                            Industries Construction, real estate; manufacturing, including auto companies; offices
                            What’s closed
                            Entertainment Night clubs

                            Final point. We know sunlight and fresh air are great disinfection agents. So when restrictions were lifted in the southern states people got out to beaches and warm weather. I would guess there are not a whole lot of people flocking to Michigan beaches yet. Environment plays a factor and Texas and Mississippi have a great advantage over Michicgan at this time of year.

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by Jordy2323 View Post
                              Its been over 6 weeks, how much longer do we need to wait for the "Neanderthal" spike?
                              If masks work, why aren't they working in all the third wave regions?
                              If lockdowns work, why do we need continual lockdowns?
                              Michigan has a 1/3 of Texas's population, but 3 times more cases.
                              Some of you lockdown cultists need to start explaining some of this.
                              Look at Regina. Half the cases in the province for pretty much two weeks. Locked down. Cases stay up. I mean, I don’t get how people don’t think this through?

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                                #90
                                Well you anti vaxxers are getting your wish. Many U.S. states vaccinations are stalling. Mass vaccination sites are closing. There will be no herd immunity. I guess you can't fix stupid. If they continue this trend mask wearing will be the least of their problems
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