100 million dollars

[bucket]

Just to put some things in perspective...the so called 100 million for farmers in the federal budget that might be returned to farmers ...

10 percent of 350 billion is 35 billion
1 percent of 350 billion is 3.5 billion
.1 percent of 350 billion is 350 million
.03 percent of 350 billion is about 100 million.


Thats the worth of farmers to the economy according to Freeland and the 100 million is money farmers have already spent...its your money.

[ColevilleH2S]

In 2016 agriculture and agri-food was 6.7% of Canada's GDP.

[bucket]

In 2016 agriculture and agri-food was 6.7% of Canada's GDP.

And in 2020 and 2021 its probably higher because it is one industry that is doing its part..

1 in 8 jobs are ag related prior to the pandemic...I am thinking its more like 1 in 6 now considering all the oil field workers working for farmers now.

And farmers are completely ignored....and taken advantage of...

Think about the 100 million refund Freeland suggested....then the 50 million taken every year from checkoffs...and what are we getting in return????????

[Jordy2323]

And in 2020 and 2021 its probably higher because it is one industry that is doing its part..

1 in 8 jobs are ag related prior to the pandemic...I am thinking its more like 1 in 6 now considering all the oil field workers working for farmers now.

And farmers are completely ignored....and taken advantage of...

Think about the 100 million refund Freeland suggested....then the 50 million taken every year from checkoffs...and what are we getting in return????????

They certainly won't be ignored when it comes time to pay for the "over 100% of GDP debt"

[BreadWinner]

The federal government’s budget announced that it plans to return a portion of the proceeds of the federal price on carbon directly to farmers in the backstop jurisdictions of Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Ontario for the 2021-22 year.
Global news
It sounds like they are not going back to reimburse 2019 or 2020 when we paid huge amounts of carbon tax. They will think up some kind of administative nightmare that will soak up most of the 100million.

[sumdumguy]

Why are they charging it to farmers anyway on farm inputs?

[bigzee]

For a $110-125 ac there won’t be nothing to worry about .... but looking for that lost golf ball. 😂😂

[jazz]

They certainly won't be ignored when it comes time to pay for the "over 100% of GDP debt"

If only we could just tell the consumer our story

[fjlip]

If only we could just tell the consumer our story

First thing the 98% non farmers hear/see is MILLIONS of $$$ in iron and land. No sympathy, maybe contempt/envy.
$18-20 canola seems everyone knows about.

[Grahamp]

To be fair though what did farmers deserve last year? We have sky high prices that apparently everybody here held out for and received and we were essentially untouched (economically speaking anyways) by Covid. Can you with a straight face say we deserve a handout this year? Especially over the small main street retailer? Imagine if you were forced to close your farm while the largest BTO in the area was permitted to operate. That’s what much of Canada small business had to deal with last year.

[bucket]

To be fair though what did farmers deserve last year? We have sky high prices that apparently everybody here held out for and received and we were essentially untouched (economically speaking anyways) by Covid. Can you with a straight face say we deserve a handout this year? Especially over the small main street retailer? Imagine if you were forced to close your farm while the largest BTO in the area was permitted to operate. That’s what much of Canada small business had to deal with last year.

Yes I can ...and quite easily when the farmers to the south have had the equivalent of 100 billion Canadian thrown at them in one payment or another...

Most recently it was another 20 dollar an acre payment for corn , soybean, wheat farmers.

And no carbon tax with lower input prices...you don't think that isn't helping small town USA???

When farmers start disappearing again , do you think as that as healthy for the industry and an opportunity for you? Or do you see as a industry in trouble?

[burnt]

$100 million for (how many) farmers.

And yet the feds dole out $670 million for a tiny handful of chicken farmers to help offset their supposed losses from the trade agreement?

Maybe I'm missing something here.

[WiltonRanch]

We’ve been lucky with decent prices lately. Previous years have been lower. Problem is the government policies will blow us out of the water irrespective of market forces or weather. Good majority western farms dropped their carbon footprint 20+ years ago with zero tillage and growing in size to maximize efficiency. What more does the government want us to do? One breath the push biofuels and increased domestic food processing, fine enough. Other breath they tax those gains. There will not be enough grown to fill demand for our own consumption. It’s pure bs false economics which in the end we’ll be importing food. Sad when ag has and continues to innovate and use less resources to produce more. Bloody Northern European siocialism with a French cuk flair.

[burnt]

...What more does the government want us to do? ...

After the discussions already seen here, I assume that your question is rhetorical?

If not, the government wants you to shut down, retire your land and allow it to return to buffalo range and re-wilded lands.

It is ludicrous to think that the government of Kanada - run by the most inept, mental midget leader of all our history - actually has the good of farmers and farming in the most remote recess of their twisted minds.

[jamesb]

Yes I can ...and quite easily when the farmers to the south have had the equivalent of 100 billion Canadian thrown at them in one payment or another...

Most recently it was another 20 dollar an acre payment for corn , soybean, wheat farmers.

And no carbon tax with lower input prices...you don't think that isn't helping small town USA???

When farmers start disappearing again , do you think as that as healthy for the industry and an opportunity for you? Or do you see as a industry in trouble?

Completely agree that the US farmer payments are nice and will say we will never never see them in Canada.
As a long term zero tiller I got screwed by the latest federal budget. How long will they go before they realize that they should have maybe rewarded guys doing their part. Compare our farming methods in Sask to pretty much everywhere in the world and I believe we stand up pretty good environmentally. Feds don't see it. Gonna take years to lobby for a change. Same as the grain drying deal, they finally made a little change to right the wrong.

At the end of the day if I cant make it work the way land prices are going I will put out the for sale sign and sell to the guys down the road who are paying up for land and machinery.