Antarctic Ice

[chuckChuck]

A5, rabid deniers such as yourself shouldn't be lecturing about lack of scientific understanding! The "we are going to run out of CO2 idea" doesn't play well in public or amongst scientists. LOL

You can cling to slower ice loss in the antarctic to try to make your case that human caused climate change isn't happening, but nobody takes you seriously. Just another fringe conspiracy theorist.

[sumdumguy]

Everytime you put food in your mouth, gas in your car, turn on any appliance, drink a can of Coke, you can get on your knees and thank the good lord for CO2. You dingbats can thank the other side for depleting it. 👎

[jazz]

Its always best to put up one of these climate posts every few days to trap trolls like chuck.

He will literally spend weeks trying to find peer reviewed articles to support his delusion.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

You can cling to slower ice loss in the antarctic

I don't cling to that, since according to NASA, it isn't true.

NASA claims it is gaining ice.

Do you understand the differenc between slower loss, and gain?

I used short simple sentences to help you out.

[shtferbrains]

A5, rabid deniers such as yourself shouldn't be lecturing about lack of scientific understanding! The "we are going to run out of CO2 idea" doesn't play well in public or amongst scientists. LOL

You can cling to slower ice loss in the antarctic to try to make your case that human caused climate change isn't happening, but nobody takes you seriously. Just another fringe conspiracy theorist.

So when we slow C02 rise when do the glaciers stop melting?
Do the zelots expect that to happen at the new 2030 targets or the 2050 target?
Or do we have to wait for the C02 levels to drop in about 1000+ years as all those hockey stick charts you like to post show has supposedly happened in the past when levels wern't as high as you are predicting?
1000 yrs ago Mayan civilization was at it's peak.
Wonder is they will be obsessing over C02 1000 yrs from now?

[Guest]

arseholes are making money like gore and suzuki ,
nothing more , nothing less
and wingnuts do there bidding for free

[Stormin]

Just a thought... water expands about 9% when frozen. About 90% of an iceberg or ice shelf should be under water. Wouldn't that leave net zero rise in water if all the polar ice melted? Just asking.

[fjlip]

"NASA claims it is gaining ice.

Do you understand the difference between slower loss, and gain?

I used short simple sentences to help you out. " Better BOLD that, slow people can't absorb facts?

And again CC...



And all Climate Lies/BS/agenda as much as you TruAnons wish, it's NOT happening!

[furrowtickler]

A different perspective ...

https://youtu.be/ViY2J3LPgN4

[dmlfarmer]

Just a thought... water expands about 9% when frozen. About 90% of an iceberg or ice shelf should be under water. Wouldn't that leave net zero rise in water if all the polar ice melted? Just asking.

Much of the glaciation is not icebergs, but rather on top land masses or in the form of ice shelves above the water in which case 100% of that ice adds to sea level.

But an even bigger factor than the addition to melt water is thermal expansion of the oceans. Any temperature rise results in expansion of water and given the amount of water covering our planet it does not take much of a temperature rise to result in rising sea levels.

[chuckChuck]

Contrary to what our resident denialists 'believe" NASA clearly says that the antarctic is losing ice mass.

I am sure some of the denailist could stand at the foot of the glaciers in the Columbia ice fields, with their well marked signs for their decades of shrinking, and still try to tell us that climate change is not happening! LOL


https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/31158 https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/31158

Antarctic Ice Mass Loss 2002-2020
Released on March 21, 2021

The mass of the Antarctic ice sheet has changed over the last decades. Research based on observations from the Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment (GRACE) satellites (2002-2017) and GRACE Follow-On (since 2018 - ) indicates that between 2002 and 2020, Antarctica shed approximately 150 gigatons of ice per year, causing global sea level to rise by 0.4 millimeters per year. These images, created from GRACE and GRACE-FO data, show changes in Antarctic ice mass since 2002. Orange and red shades indicate areas that lost ice mass, while light blue shades indicate areas that gained ice mass. White indicates areas where there has been very little or no change in ice mass since 2002. Areas in East Antarctica experienced modest amounts of mass gain due to increased snow accumulation. However, this gain is more than offset by significant ice mass loss on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet (dark red) over the 19-year period. Floating ice shelves whose mass change GRACE & GRACE-FO do not measure are colored gray. The average flow lines (grey; created from satellite radar interferometry) of Antarctica’s ice converge into the locations of prominent outlet glaciers, and coincide with areas of highest mass loss (i.e., Pine Island and Thwaites glaciers in West-Antarctica). This supports other observations that warming ocean waters around Antarctica play a key role in contemporary ice mass loss.

[sumdumguy]

.4 mm per year - Staples has card stock paper that thick.

[furrowtickler]

climate emergency ??
//youtu.be/jIMpjh_7-bw

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Its always best to put up one of these climate posts every few days to trap trolls like chuck.

He will literally spend weeks trying to find peer reviewed articles to support his delusion.

Yes, well done Jazz.
This kept Chuck busy for an entire 10 days ( so far) trying to contradict NASA's studies indicating both sea ice gain, and ice sheet gain in Antarctica.

From NASA's own website:

The good news is that Antarctica is not currently contributing to sea level rise, but is taking 0.23 millimeters per year away

thickening the ice in East Antarctica and the interior of West Antarctica by an average of 0.7 inches (1.7 centimeters) per year. This small thickening, sustained over thousands of years and spread over the vast expanse of these sectors of Antarctica, corresponds to a very large gain of ice

The research challenges the conclusions of other studies, including the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) 2013 report, which says that Antarctica is overall losing land ice.

Better stick with claiming that there is consensus and that the science is settled.

[chuckChuck]

Ice loss mass in the antarctic is variable depending on location with some areas showing no losses and some areas gains. If you watch the video in the link below it graphically shows where ice loss is occurring.

Scientist say parts of the Antarctica have been much less affected by warming than other regions due to several factors.

"Areas in East Antarctica experienced modest amounts of mass gain due to increased snow accumulation. However, this gain is more than offset by significant ice mass loss on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet (dark red) over the 19-year period."

Antarctic Ice Mass Loss 2002-2020
Released on March 21, 2021

https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/31158 https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/31158

Denialists try to use the antarctic as a poster child for claiming climate change is not happening. A5 posts conflicting information, without providing context and explanation or references.

But when more clear cut rapid and well documented ice loss is occurring in the arctic and in mountain glaciers, the denialists will ignore it or just say the climate has always changed, ignoring mountains of physical evidence. Its all a conspiracy, no doubt!

Climate scientists know that climate change is occurring more rapidly in some regions of the world than in others. So suggesting that antarctic is representative of global climate change "not happening" is ridiculous.

Since A5 is so certain human caused climate change is not occurring and he has the "evidence" to prove it. You would think if A5 has the evidence, so would all the climate scientists, who spend their careers studying climate, would have the evidence as well?

But when A5 has been asked to name one scientific organization that says human caused climate change is not happening, all we hear is crickets!

We know why A5 doesn't answer the question!

A5 will quickly change the subject in his next post and bring up some other denialist distraction.