Antarctic Ice

[AlbertaFarmer5]

And speaking of distractions to avoid answering the questions.
Since when is the Athabasca glacier a proxy for Antacrtica? Different continent, different hemisphere, different altitude. No one is discussing Canadian glaciers, you brought this up to distract from the fact that you were wrong about Antarctica.
But since you brought it up,

Can you tell us when it started melting?

Can you tell us how big it was back during the much warmer Holocene optimum?

How much did it advance during the little ice age?

What is the correct size for the Athabasca glacier?

And where did you find a photograph from 1844?

[jazz]

Troll trapping thread.

Everyone else is seeding and chuck is still looking for articles.

[chuckChuck]

"Or maybe you should leave climate science to the scientists" Huh

A5 you should take your own advice. And maybe rethink the idea that we are going to run out of carbon dioxide if we don't keep burning fossil fuels. LOL

True the Antarctic is the biggest ice sheet by far. But Greenland's ice sheet is also very significant and its melting rate is increasing.

"Ice sheets contain enormous quantities of frozen water. If the Greenland Ice Sheet melted, scientists estimate that sea level would rise about 6 meters (20 feet). If the Antarctic Ice Sheet melted, sea level would rise by about 60 meters (200 feet).

https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/icesheets.html https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/icesheets.html

You do realize that with ice loss that once we reach a tipping point ice loss becomes a positive feed back?

You and I will be long gone long before this happens.

Don't get hung up on the evolving scientific understanding of what is happening in the Antarctic. It is very important, but there are many other factors to consider. NASA lays them out in the following link:

https://climate.nasa.gov/effects/ https://climate.nasa.gov/effects/

[chuckChuck]

Troll trapping thread.

Everyone else is seeding and chuck is still looking for articles.

Rain delay. Why are you posting if seeding is waiting? LOL

[chuckChuck]

And speaking of distractions to avoid answering the questions.
Since when is the Athabasca glacier a proxy for Antacrtica? Different continent, different hemisphere, different altitude. No one is discussing Canadian glaciers, you brought this up to distract from the fact that you were wrong about Antarctica.
But since you brought it up,

Can you tell us when it started melting?

Can you tell us how big it was back during the much warmer Holocene optimum?

How much did it advance during the little ice age?

What is the correct size for the Athabasca glacier?

And where did you find a photograph from 1844?

Never said it was a proxy for the antarctic. But you are so sure climate change is not happening in western Canada! In fact you have said its cooling. Why is the Athabasca glacier melting if the climate change and warming is not happening? Explain that please.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Rain delay. Why are you posting if seeding is waiting? LOL

That is one long rain delay. It appears to have been uninterrupted since 2006 when you joined.

That could be why you never post about agricultural issues, hasn't quit raining long enough to step outside for decades.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Never said it was a proxy for the antarctic. But you are so sure climate change is not happening in western Canada! In fact you have said its cooling. Why is the Athabasca glacier melting if the climate change and warming is not happening? Explain that please.

Since you are putting words in my mouth, where did I say climate change isn't happening in western Canada? When did I say it was cooling?

I am currently a net beneficiary of the warming trend we have been in for this cycle.

Based on historical records we are now almost back to being as warm as it was during the 30's in my area.

I am now almost back to growing the types of longer season crops the old timers were growing back then, before decades of cooling made even barley and oats a questionable proposition by the late 70's.

That doesn't change the cyclical nature of climate.

I will be immensly pleased if the cycles don't repeat and we haven't already entered the next multi decade cooling phase. But I'm not holding my breathe, my business and profitability depend on getting this right.

[chuckChuck]

Greenland's Rapid Melt Will Mean More Flooding

The Greenland Ice Sheet is rapidly melting, having lost 3.8 trillion tons of ice between 1992 and 2018, a new study from NASA and the European Space Agency (ESA) finds. The study combined 26 independent satellite datasets to track global warming's effect on Greenland, one of the largest ice sheets on Earth, and the ice sheet melt's impact on rising sea levels. The findings, which forecast an approximate 3 to 5 inches (70 to 130 millimeters) of global sea level rise by 2100, are in alignment with previous worst-case projections if the average rate of Greenland's ice loss continues.

Changes to the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets are of considerable societal importance, as they directly impact global sea levels, which are a result of climate change. As glaciers and ice sheets melt, they add more water to the ocean. Increasing rates of global warming have accelerated Greenland's ice mass loss from 25 billion tons per year in the 1990s to a current average of 234 billion tons per year. This means that Greenland's ice is melting on average seven times faster today than it was at the beginning of the study period. The Greenland Ice Sheet holds enough water to raise the sea level by 24 feet (7.4 meters).

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2940/greenlands-rapid-melt-will-mean-more-flooding/ https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2940/greenlands-rapid-melt-will-mean-more-flooding/

[chuckChuck]

That is one long rain delay. It appears to have been uninterrupted since 2006 when you joined.

That could be why you never post about agricultural issues, hasn't quit raining long enough to step outside for decades.

You post way more than I do there Bud. Are you a real farmer? LOL

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Did you read the thread title?
Do you now think that Greenland is in Antarctica?
Even in the same hemisphere?
Does this information somehow prove that NASA is wrong, and Antarctica isn't GAINING ice mass?