EV bullshit , fact checking

[furrowtickler]

Found this interesting on the topic of EV wind and solar power etc ....
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/China-Delivers-Crushing-Blow-To-Wind-Solar-Power.html

[Guest]

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/China-Delivers-Crushing-Blow-To-Wind-Solar-Power.html https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/China-Delivers-Crushing-Blow-To-Wind-Solar-Power.html

[Guest]

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/10/cold-spell-in-south-eastern-australia-breaks-temperature-records-for-may https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/10/cold-spell-in-south-eastern-australia-breaks-temperature-records-for-may
wonder why this isn't on the news 24/7 ?

[Oliver88]

Our trusted friends at SNC just came out with a study that says we need 3x the power production by 2050 and Hydro or Nuclear are the only reliable choices.
Equivalent to 113 site C Hydro projects.
That's a lot of $1.72 a day.

Power grid upgrades will be required for this game of luxury car virtue signalling.

[chuckChuck]

How is social assistance gdp?

Health care and saftey nets for those who can't take care of themselves.

Imagine the economic impact of poor health care if people who are sick can't get treatment? When sick people can't work, don't pay taxes or spend much money and can't make much a contribution, this would have a negative impact on the economy.

What happens to a farm when the person who does most of the management and work gets sick and nobody else can easily step into replace them? Imagine if this happens a lot in a country with poor health care. Good healthcare is important for a strong economy.

[furrowtickler]

Health care and saftey nets for those who can't take care of themselves.

Imagine the economic impact of poor health care if people who are sick can't get treatment? When sick people can't work, don't pay taxes or spend much money and can't make much a contribution, this would have a negative impact on the economy.

What happens to a farm when the person who does most of the management and work gets sick and nobody else can easily step into replace them? Imagine if this happens a lot in a country with poor health care. Good healthcare is important for a strong economy.

Amd so is vibrant wealth creating industry to pay for the health care .... money don’t grow on trees

[chuckChuck]

You need both good healthcare for a strong economy and a strong economy for good healthcare. They work together.

Good education is also very important for a strong economy. Both education and healthcare are the top 2 largest provincial expenditures by far.

[Hamloc]

Like Jazz, I also heard from an oil exec that the keystone XL pipeline would bring riches to Alberta, it would make electric vehicles be taken back to the horse age. That oil would be THE resource. No point getting anything electric, our future in oil is now.

Now imagine if Kenny would have spent 1.3 billion + loan guarantees on rechargeable infrastructure - or frankly anything else? Oh right, tax payer subsidies on oil and lost causes are just fine with low IQ Agriville.

I have a relative who has purchased an electric car. She was excited about the fact that there were charging stations where she could recharge her car for free. What I don’t understand is why proponents of electric cars feel government(so taxpayers) should supply this recharging infrastructure and at present doing it for free? First government subsidizes the purchase of the car, then supplies the energy to run it, how will government eventually recover the costs?

[Hamloc]

When the model T came out did we just say "well guess no one's going to build nice paved roads and gas stations everywhere so I guess we'll just go back to horses!" ?

Also, the average Canadian drives 15200km/year. That's about 42km/day. 42km @ 180Wh/km (120km/h on the highway averaged out for the year) and adjusted for 88% charge efficiency would be an energy cost of 8.6kWh or $1.72/day. You think that the average person using an extra $1.72 of electricity per day would break the grid?

When the model T came out did the government build gas stations and supply gasoline for free like like they are now for electric cars?

[chuckChuck]

I have a relative who has purchased an electric car. She was excited about the fact that there were charging stations where she could recharge her car for free. What I don’t understand is why proponents of electric cars feel government(so taxpayers) should supply this recharging infrastructure and at present doing it for free? First government subsidizes the purchase of the car, then supplies the energy to run it, how will government eventually recover the costs?

How is that any different than all the subsidies, support and incentives given to the oil and gas industry?

How does the government recoup its investment in highways or any public infrastructure?

Many of the charging stations are pay stations. Some are free. Its early days and the rebates and incentives are there to speed up change. Over time the subsidies and incentives won't be needed.