Desperate Times

[flea beetle]

Ahaha. Better profiling needed. Don't watch CBC, CNN or much of TV except for Yellowstone, Handmaids Tale, Seal Team and classic western movies. Too much fake news on MSM (like the websites you Covid Hoaxers are hooked on).

Roussin is not my hero. But, he has the power. Whatever Hoaxer paradigm is clouding your judgement prevents you from seeing it's Health not Politics.

Someday history will look back and attribute the longer than needed restrictions on the Covid Hoaxers and vaccine Hesitators. Shameful.

What is shameful is people thinking they can tell others what they should be doing. (ie: take an untested vax, side effects be damned)

My parents got their shot May 4th. Both got moderna. Mom seems ok, but dads abdomen has swollen up like a balloon. Looks like he gained 100 lbs. pushing on his chest making it hard to breathe.

Went for tests. Blood work, heart test, CT scan, checked for fluid build up. All came back negative. Told them he had his covid shot. Ended the tests and sent him home. Said they can’t find anything. So you tell me if the covid shot that you vax pushers are pushing is so good.

Dad would have been better off without it, I will tell you that much.

[burnt]

When we witness normally astute thinkers display such uncharacteristic arrogance and flippancy, it leaves the distinct impression that they are suffering from self-second-guessing fatigue.

Well it was your choice.

You did it, and you cannot undo it, so live with it you will.

You deliberately chose to submit yourself to a human genetic modification experiment.

Do you know what the Nuremberg Trails and resultant Code are about.

[jazz]

Sorry to hear that flea.

My reasoning for getting the shot was to stop this insanity and economic and mental harm on my kids. Had nothing to do with my fear of getting covid or shame from other people. I look at them and the damage they will have to navigate in the years to come makes my heart break. Its no wonder teenagers are the ones lined up at the clinics now. Just desperate to get on with their lives and getting a shot they dont need.

In the past few months, the Pfizer has become the superior and safest vaccine and they are the closest to full approval.

And if there is any leveraging this technology to cancer, I think that might be worth some of the risk as well.

But I will never tell anyone they have to get anything. Its a personal choice, period.

[sumdumguy]

What is shameful is people thinking they can tell others what they should be doing. (ie: take an untested vax, side effects be damned)

My parents got their shot May 4th. Both got moderna. Mom seems ok, but dads abdomen has swollen up like a balloon. Looks like he gained 100 lbs. pushing on his chest making it hard to breathe.

Went for tests. Blood work, heart test, CT scan, checked for fluid build up. All came back negative. Told them he had his covid shot. Ended the tests and sent him home. Said they can’t find anything. So you tell me if the covid shot that you vax pushers are pushing is so good.

Dad would have been better off without it, I will tell you that much.

A family member who happens to be a bigger farmer got the Moderna shot beginning of May before seeding.
He was bed-ridden for two weeks, flat on his back. I spoke to him yesterday, he’s looking for Ivermectin and started the Vitamin D and Zinc regime, he has no energy at all. He doesn’t blame this illness on the vaccine, he tested positive for Covid a week after vaccine.

[chuckChuck]

There are very few people in Canada who haven't had a childhood vaacine of some type and most people never thought twice about their safety or efficacy.

People who get sick often cling to a notion about what caused it without having much evidence.

Many very serious diseases prior to covid have been eradicated by vaccines.

Small pox being one of the most important diseases eradicated by vaccines but take a look at the small pox photos and the list below of preventable disease and tell us again that vaccines are not a good idea!





Anthrax
Chickenpox (varicella)
Diphtheria
H. influenzae type b
Hepatitis A
Hepatitis B
Human papillomavirus
Influenza
Measles
Meningococcal
Mumps
Pertussis (whooping cough)
Pneumococcal
Polio
Rabies
Rotavirus
Rubella
Shingles (zoster)
Smallpox
Tetanus

[chuckChuck]

How about anthrax?

[chuckChuck]

Or Rabies?

[chuckChuck]

Or hepatitus B?

[A990]

[QUOTE=chuckChuck;496980]Or Rabies?
or dunng kruger

[Austrian Economics]

I do not think you can expect the same outcome in any two places. So, while it is ill advised to compare, look at South Dakota stats:

According to Worldometer SD has recorded 2262 deaths/M. SK has had 448/M. So to compare, SK needs to see another 2130 deaths to have the same outcome as SD.

SD has recorded 123,911 cases while doing 476,597 tests
SK has recorded 45,490 cases while doing 840,457 tests

The stats show there is no comparison.

I wasn't comparing deaths, just vaccination rates versus cases. Of course, the mainstream narrative focuses exclusively on deaths as if no other metric is even worth considering.

"You can't expect the same outcome in any two places" is just a trite excuse that central planners use when they don't want someone to compare their outcomes to anyone else's.

[chuckChuck]

Guess which boy was vaccinated against small pox?


https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/smallpox-and-the-photos-anti-vaxxers-dont-want-you-to-see/24MJGHWAIJRJYD6LIPQ6ZTBKHI/ https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/smallpox-and-the-photos-anti-vaxxers-dont-want-you-to-see/24MJGHWAIJRJYD6LIPQ6ZTBKHI/

It was one of the deadliest and most contagious diseases known to humankind.

Smallpox killed over half a billion people in the 20th century alone — three times the number of deaths from all of the century's wars combined.

It began with flu-like symptoms, progressing to an horrendous rash consisting of deep sores, filled with fluid that would blister, ooze, crust and scab over, leaving permanent scars on those lucky enough to survive.
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Just one teaspoon of smallpox virus is enough to infect every man, woman and child on earth, news.com.au reports.

But then a miracle — British doctor Edward Jenner created a vaccine after noticing that the milk maids (the women who milked the cows) who had been infected with "cow pox" never contracted smallpox.

This month marks the 270th birthday of Dr Jenner, known as the pioneer of vaccination who arguably saved more lives than anyone else in history. And yet, despite saving countless lives, he still had to deal with the early "anti-vaxx" movement where in 1796 as well as 2019, the boundaries between opinion and fact are often blurred.

Many people are too young to have ever seen smallpox in their lifetime, or have simply forgotten the sheer horror of the disease.

With a mortality rate of up to 30 per cent, many survivors of smallpox were left with significant scarring and even blindness. Smallpox has no cure, but that didn't stop people from trying, with treatments including being bled, purged, starved, and wrapped tightly in red cloth.

Owen Gower, vaccine expert and museum manager at Dr Jenner's House, told news.com.au it's difficult for many of us to comprehend what was achieved through vaccination against smallpox.
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[Austrian Economics]

AE: Are you in fact saying public funded health care is not funded enough? After all, the privately funded system in the US is the most expensive health care system in the world. Per person health care costs are US$3000.00 per person more annually than anywhere else in the world. Healthcare spending in Canada per person is about 1/2 of the US spend per person We could have more ICU beds too if taxes were raised to an equivalent amount as what US citizens pay in individual health care premiums
U.S. dollars, PPP adjusted, 2019
United States
$10,966
Switzerland
$7,732
Germany
$6,646
Austria
$5,851
Sweden
$5,782
Netherlands
$5,765
Comparable Country Average
$5,697
Belgium
$5,428
Canada
$5,418
France
$5,376
Australia
$5,187
Japan
$4,823
United Kingdom
$4,653
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/health-spending-u-s-compare-countries/#item-spendingcomparison_health-consumption-expenditures-per-capita-2019 https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/health-spending-u-s-compare-countries/#item-spendingcomparison_health-consumption-expenditures-per-capita-2019

And by what criteria are you justifying the private system is better? Just by number of hospital/ICU beds? The US has the lowest life expectancy and highest suicide rate of the 11 OECD nations. Its obesity rate is 2 times higher than the OECD rate. It chronic disease rate is much higher than other countries. And the US tops the world in Covid deaths. The Bloomberg Health index rating ranks the US and its private system as 35th in the world whereas Canada ranks 16th and in fact all 34 countries that rank ahead of the US private health care system have universal health care systems.

I've made this point before but I'll make it again here: the United States has a centrally planned medical care system too. It is less centrally planned than ours, so it has better outcomes. But their system focuses on centrally planning the insurance side as opposed to the service delivery side. Their tort law system, which is completely different from ours, adds staggering lawsuit costs which have to be covered by fees.

Rates of chronic disease, obesity and suicide are not dependent on how medical care is paid for. Why are you even making this point? Are you suggesting that someone gets fat because the have to pay insurance premiums?

Canada is nearly alone in the world as a single-payer system. Europe has a huge mixture of public and private service delivery.

Canada's not going to tax it's way out of this collapsing system either. It consumes 50% of provincial budgets as is, when you add in federal transfers.