Desperate Times

[farmboy44]

Someone explain how if 44% of your population is at least partially vaccinated, you’ve been locked down to reduce spread, why are cases are peaking when about 1/2 of your population should be out of the numbers equation. Alberta is not much different, what has changed since the beginning other than the rollout of vaccines.

Variants have been proven to be much more transmissible than the strain earlier on in the pandemic

[jazz]

Variants have been proven to be much more transmissible than the strain earlier on in the pandemic

The we have a different problem then which is a vaccine that is now ineffective against whatever current strain is circulating.

The easy restrictions were closing those airports. A year later and people pour into the country from all over the globe while old timers with two vaccine doses are still locked down.

[Partners]

Variants have been proven to be much more transmissible than the strain earlier on in the pandemic

Bull crap.
Cases are down in sask.
Variants are weaker than original.

[Partners]

More medical bullshit.
Wife got a breast exam notice.
Called the number.
No bus coming around because of covid.
Instead come to Regina for the exam??
We were told to stay the hell away from Regina???

[Austrian Economics]

Golf is still allowed in Manitoba, but as of Saturday morning, only household members are allowed to play with each other. This restriction will end on Tuesday night.

Who knew Covid was only active on the courses for those four days?

My league play has been cancelled for the forseeable future, but other than for this coming weekend, the members can still show up and golf. Their scores just won't be recorded.

Who knew that Covid could differentiate between players with a team scorecard and those without?

Humour aside, there is simply no correlation whatsoever between outdoor activity like golfing and Covid cases. This is just another government in panic mode which feels it must be seen to be "doing something" to halt Covid.

[Partners]

Show me the proof, all I read says they “appear or seem” to be more contagious.
Vague words in my books.

Google any variants.

[Austrian Economics]

Where is your proof of that?

The vaccination rates in every province are way higher than the R value of the virus. The vaccination rate is out pacing the infection rate by 30X in MB. If one person can spread the virus to so many others, then one vaccinated person should halt the spread to the same number of people.

Now do that math. The virus should have been stopped in its tracks long ago.

That's a logical conclusion to draw, but the health authorities don't have a lot of patience for criticism of their policies these days. They have a one trick pony in their arsenal, but it's getting beaten to death at this point with nothing to show for it.

The Dakotas have had flat case trajectories for months now. Thirty eight new cases yesterday in SD. They've effectively stopped it. Now, did they stop it because of the vaccinations? Or because so many people had it that they have acquired herd immunity in the traditional manner?

If the latter is the case, then basically no jurisdiction has a lot of choice in the matter. Make all the rules you want, they will have no impact other than to destroy the economy.

The news out of Manitoba is not doing much for promoting the idea that the only way to stop Covid is to get vaccinated.

[Austrian Economics]

If the vaccines are as effective as claimed, then case numbers should begin to decline in short order. In that case, the latest measures announced by Manitoba are a grotesque and panic-driven overreaction.

[farmboy44]

The we have a different problem then which is a vaccine that is now ineffective against whatever current strain is circulating.

The easy restrictions were closing those airports. A year later and people pour into the country from all over the globe while old timers with two vaccine doses are still locked down.

No, VAST majority of people who are getting infected now are those who still haven’t had a chance to get vaccinated

Look at the demographics, almost all new cases are in the under 40 crowd

[farmboy44]

Show me the proof, all I read says they “appear or seem” to be more contagious.
Vague words in my books.

The proof is in the third wave Canada experienced. Manitoba/Nova Scotia are just a couple weeks behind the rest

[farmboy44]

My research shows 30-59 year olds have been the bulk of cases right from the start.

Okay, but even still, the % of cases that the 50+ crowd represent now is substantially less than pre vaccine Times

[Austrian Economics]

Again not exactly the case, cases in all age groups are dropping at the same rate according to this graph.
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I can buy the argument that cases are dropping, and that Manitoba is perhaps a week or two behind the rest. So why did the Manitoba government hit the panic button again today? What possible overall impact could occur from adding a few extra restrictions for 5 days?

If we're that close to the peak, why not just tell people that further measures are redundant and that they should just calm down?

[farmboy44]

Again not exactly the case, cases in all age groups are dropping at the same rate according to this graph.
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You just keep moving to other corners of the room to avoid the elephant.

Hospitalizations and deaths of people 50+ since March are much lower than before march

The opposite is true for those below 50.

Is that also proof vaccines are just placebos?

[farmboy44]

Here’s another statistic I’d like explained.
Alberta has had 7 health care workers die out of 12047 Covid cases, that’s less than 0.0006%
Why the difference in a high risk high stress sector???

Is this real life? Are we actually asking this?

How deadly is it to 85 year olds
How deadly is it to 25 year olds

How many nurses are 85
How many nurses are 25

Try harder

[farmboy44]

Here’s another statistic I’d like explained.
Alberta has had 7 health care workers die out of 12047 Covid cases, that’s less than 0.0006%
Why the difference in a high risk high stress sector???

And your math is also only off by 100x