Desperate Times

[farming101]

I do not think you can expect the same outcome in any two places. So, while it is ill advised to compare, look at South Dakota stats:

According to Worldometer SD has recorded 2262 deaths/M. SK has had 448/M. So to compare, SK needs to see another 2130 deaths to have the same outcome as SD.

SD has recorded 123,911 cases while doing 476,597 tests
SK has recorded 45,490 cases while doing 840,457 tests

The stats show there is no comparison.

[jazz]

I fear that governments here have set an unattainable and unnecessary goal and they are hell bent on putting the economy through a blender in order to attain it.

US vaccination rates are slowing as well. Some wont get it now that some states have reopened. Some were never planning on getting it. Travel isnt such a big deal to some people if you already live in a place with nice weather.

My entire extended family got one dose but none are rushing in for the 2nd yet. We were told it isnt needed for 4 months anyway. Other people I know got the AZ shot and wont go in for a 2nd of anything until some more information comes through.

Lets see if we make it through some of the reopening goal posts in that time.

Moe can open restaurants but he cant open the US border.

My guess is the feds want to slow walk this whole thing so Justin can get his mail in election this fall. Never waste a crisis.

[dmlfarmer]

"The health care system is stretched to max, that is the concern."

Yes, because socialized medical systems have no sensible way to handle that. Increased demand just means stretched budgets. Without a price system, there's no way to know how to garner resources to handle the bulge.

For comparison purposes, the allegedly sinful for-profit (well, more for-profit than ours) medical system in a place like Alabama has 3.9 ICU beds per 10,000 people. Manitoba had 81 total ICU beds at the beginning of the pandemic, for 1.27 million people. Rate works out to 0.63 ICU beds per 10,000.

Covid is a clear signal that Medicare is in terminal decline. Provincial health care budgets will never, and I repeat never, recover from this blow.

AE: Are you in fact saying public funded health care is not funded enough? After all, the privately funded system in the US is the most expensive health care system in the world. Per person health care costs are US$3000.00 per person more annually than anywhere else in the world. Healthcare spending in Canada per person is about 1/2 of the US spend per person We could have more ICU beds too if taxes were raised to an equivalent amount as what US citizens pay in individual health care premiums
U.S. dollars, PPP adjusted, 2019
United States
$10,966
Switzerland
$7,732
Germany
$6,646
Austria
$5,851
Sweden
$5,782
Netherlands
$5,765
Comparable Country Average
$5,697
Belgium
$5,428
Canada
$5,418
France
$5,376
Australia
$5,187
Japan
$4,823
United Kingdom
$4,653
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/health-spending-u-s-compare-countries/#item-spendingcomparison_health-consumption-expenditures-per-capita-2019 https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/health-spending-u-s-compare-countries/#item-spendingcomparison_health-consumption-expenditures-per-capita-2019

And by what criteria are you justifying the private system is better? Just by number of hospital/ICU beds? The US has the lowest life expectancy and highest suicide rate of the 11 OECD nations. Its obesity rate is 2 times higher than the OECD rate. It chronic disease rate is much higher than other countries. And the US tops the world in Covid deaths. The Bloomberg Health index rating ranks the US and its private system as 35th in the world whereas Canada ranks 16th and in fact all 34 countries that rank ahead of the US private health care system have universal health care systems.

[Braveheart]

Braveheart is what you get when you lock someone in their home with nothing but CNN and CBC. Totally removed from reality.

What about the BLM and Gaza protests? Our own politicians waded into those protests and took a knee. What about the liberals campaigning door to door in NFLD and compromised an entire election cycle and spiked a huge covid surge? Any comment there? Any crimes against humanity from those protests or actions? Or is it just more hypocrisy 24-7?

Roussin is some sort of hero? This is the guy who said the politicians are exempt from public health orders.

Ahaha. Better profiling needed. Don't watch CBC, CNN or much of TV except for Yellowstone, Handmaids Tale, Seal Team and classic western movies. Too much fake news on MSM (like the websites you Covid Hoaxers are hooked on).

Roussin is not my hero. But, he has the power. Whatever Hoaxer paradigm is clouding your judgement prevents you from seeing it's Health not Politics.

Someday history will look back and attribute the longer than needed restrictions on the Covid Hoaxers and vaccine Hesitators. Shameful.

[biglentil]

The only ones getting desperate are the globullists trying to bribe and threaten people to take the jab. Bribes range from free burger and fries, entry into million dollar lotteries, scholarships, and even reducing inmates sentences by half. They also threaten us with our freedom. Last time I checked keeping people hostage and using extortion is a crime.

Now that the vacksheen rollout is losing traction, expect the next atTak, likely CyBuR. Then they will come to our 'rescue' again.

[TSIPP]

The more you pro experiment shot guys talk the more there is no way I’m rolling up my sleeve, and you guys think we are brainwashed and wearing tinfoil hats.

As far as I Know The government isn’t keeping up with the demand for the vaccine, and we are the ones that are shameful? I didn’t give any one Covid, I did my part!!!

[flea beetle]

Ahaha. Better profiling needed. Don't watch CBC, CNN or much of TV except for Yellowstone, Handmaids Tale, Seal Team and classic western movies. Too much fake news on MSM (like the websites you Covid Hoaxers are hooked on).

Roussin is not my hero. But, he has the power. Whatever Hoaxer paradigm is clouding your judgement prevents you from seeing it's Health not Politics.

Someday history will look back and attribute the longer than needed restrictions on the Covid Hoaxers and vaccine Hesitators. Shameful.

What is shameful is people thinking they can tell others what they should be doing. (ie: take an untested vax, side effects be damned)

My parents got their shot May 4th. Both got moderna. Mom seems ok, but dads abdomen has swollen up like a balloon. Looks like he gained 100 lbs. pushing on his chest making it hard to breathe.

Went for tests. Blood work, heart test, CT scan, checked for fluid build up. All came back negative. Told them he had his covid shot. Ended the tests and sent him home. Said they can’t find anything. So you tell me if the covid shot that you vax pushers are pushing is so good.

Dad would have been better off without it, I will tell you that much.

[burnt]

When we witness normally astute thinkers display such uncharacteristic arrogance and flippancy, it leaves the distinct impression that they are suffering from self-second-guessing fatigue.

Well it was your choice.

You did it, and you cannot undo it, so live with it you will.

You deliberately chose to submit yourself to a human genetic modification experiment.

Do you know what the Nuremberg Trails and resultant Code are about.

[jazz]

Sorry to hear that flea.

My reasoning for getting the shot was to stop this insanity and economic and mental harm on my kids. Had nothing to do with my fear of getting covid or shame from other people. I look at them and the damage they will have to navigate in the years to come makes my heart break. Its no wonder teenagers are the ones lined up at the clinics now. Just desperate to get on with their lives and getting a shot they dont need.

In the past few months, the Pfizer has become the superior and safest vaccine and they are the closest to full approval.

And if there is any leveraging this technology to cancer, I think that might be worth some of the risk as well.

But I will never tell anyone they have to get anything. Its a personal choice, period.

[sumdumguy]

What is shameful is people thinking they can tell others what they should be doing. (ie: take an untested vax, side effects be damned)

My parents got their shot May 4th. Both got moderna. Mom seems ok, but dads abdomen has swollen up like a balloon. Looks like he gained 100 lbs. pushing on his chest making it hard to breathe.

Went for tests. Blood work, heart test, CT scan, checked for fluid build up. All came back negative. Told them he had his covid shot. Ended the tests and sent him home. Said they can’t find anything. So you tell me if the covid shot that you vax pushers are pushing is so good.

Dad would have been better off without it, I will tell you that much.

A family member who happens to be a bigger farmer got the Moderna shot beginning of May before seeding.
He was bed-ridden for two weeks, flat on his back. I spoke to him yesterday, he’s looking for Ivermectin and started the Vitamin D and Zinc regime, he has no energy at all. He doesn’t blame this illness on the vaccine, he tested positive for Covid a week after vaccine.

[chuckChuck]

There are very few people in Canada who haven't had a childhood vaacine of some type and most people never thought twice about their safety or efficacy.

People who get sick often cling to a notion about what caused it without having much evidence.

Many very serious diseases prior to covid have been eradicated by vaccines.

Small pox being one of the most important diseases eradicated by vaccines but take a look at the small pox photos and the list below of preventable disease and tell us again that vaccines are not a good idea!





Anthrax
Chickenpox (varicella)
Diphtheria
H. influenzae type b
Hepatitis A
Hepatitis B
Human papillomavirus
Influenza
Measles
Meningococcal
Mumps
Pertussis (whooping cough)
Pneumococcal
Polio
Rabies
Rotavirus
Rubella
Shingles (zoster)
Smallpox
Tetanus

[chuckChuck]

How about anthrax?

[chuckChuck]

Or Rabies?

[chuckChuck]

Or hepatitus B?

[A990]

[QUOTE=chuckChuck;496980]Or Rabies?
or dunng kruger