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    #31
    Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
    So Chuck, if commercial class solar operates at 15% capacity factor is that equivalent to about one day a week?
    So if you need power for the other 6 days do you just need another 6 similar solar set ups to cover the other 6 daysor how do you get that covered?
    Demand, mainly for air conditioning, boosted power prices for Thursday at the Palo Verde hub <EL-PK-PLVD-SNL> in Arizona to a record $1,420 per megawatt hour, compared with a five-year average of just $32. (Reuters)

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      #32
      I have the solution Larry ..

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        #33
        Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
        I have the solution Larry ..
        LOL

        David Richardson and I had battery operated safari hats that had built in fans that we wore to the Marble Club ...It was his birthday and that is as far back as I need to remember on that night ...lol

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          #34
          Originally posted by LWeber View Post
          Demand, mainly for air conditioning, boosted power prices for Thursday at the Palo Verde hub <EL-PK-PLVD-SNL> in Arizona to a record $1,420 per megawatt hour, compared with a five-year average of just $32. (Reuters)
          Ya but, Chuck said that solar power is really economical down in the sun belt since peak sun coincides with peak AC demand.
          Imagine how expensive rates would have been without all the cheap solar power...
          At least I think that is how it works?

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            #35
            Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
            Ya but, Chuck said that solar power is really economical down in the sun belt since peak sun coincides with peak AC demand.
            Imagine how expensive rates would have been without all the cheap solar power...
            At least I think that is how it works?
            It’s free power with zero environmental impact

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              #36
              Solar is well suited to the sunbelt as peak demand matches up well with air conditioning peak loads. Look for more and more solar.

              You can thank Arizona's deregulated electricity market for the peak prices. High prices are just a market signal. With prices like those that should attract more solar which can produce electricity for a 3-4 cents per kwh.
              Last edited by chuckChuck; Jun 18, 2021, 07:26.

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                #37
                The high prices are because solar only produces from about 11am to 5pm. Big demand comes when people get home from work on a hot day and the few gas plants they haven't scrapped out have to cover all demand.
                They already have more solar than they need ayt the time of day it produces. We should be buying it off the western interconect as iut is about worthless at peak sunlight time.
                We could send them hydro in the evening at 5x the price and be 100% green for 20% of the investment.

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                  #38
                  Aren't economics amazing hey Chuck?
                  Adding some 3 to 4 cent per kWh sola power only drove the retail cost up to 134 cents per kWh for the consumer.
                  More regulations would certainly help thought.
                  For example, Arizona needs to regulate that the sun needs to set 3 hours later to eliminate the duck curve.
                  Regulate the sun to adjust it's intensity according to demand.
                  Regulate clouds to stay away.
                  Regulate consumers to not use AC unless big brother tells them to.

                  Because, as experience has shown, More regulations, more government, more bureaucrats, less rights, less free market are always the solution to problems caused by more government

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                    #39
                    A5, I hope you are enjoying paying more your farm electricity in deregulated Alberta than we are paying in regulated Saskatchewan! LOL

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                      #40
                      Anything's cheap as long as you stay in Saskatchewan.

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