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    #13
    Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
    Unfortunately for Keynes, he is dead wrong in this economic environment. Great for economic textbooks though!
    Really dead wrong? Keynes understood fully that printing money was the surest way to destroy capitalism and enslave a population. The elite are tickled pink with how well its working and how only 1 in a million understands it.

    I agree the banking sector is in big trouble all part of the plan.
    Last edited by biglentil; Jun 4, 2021, 07:36.

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      #14
      Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
      One feels Canadian banks should operate not for profit. Hard to believe someone who supposedly runs a business and is capitalist would even make such as statement. I guess he runs his farm as a not for profit business and that's why he suggests the Cdn banks should run as a cooperative. I guess deep down inside he did support the CWB.
      I agree totally. Canadian banks should be able to operate at a profit, but regulated to prevent gouging and bad loans.

      If people want non profit lenders there are local credit unions and FCC.

      Personally because the banks operate as businesses, they are a lot more business friendly than CU or FCC. But each to their own.

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        #15
        Originally posted by jwab
        Someone smarter than me please explain why banks need to be for profit?
        I hate the obscene profits banks and credit card companies enjoy but if you decree banks be credit unions or such, it’s veering down the road of communism. Sometimes we’d be better if we had more than 5 or 6 major banks for competition but 1000 banks like in the USA is unfathomable. The reason Canadian banks have been successful has been successful is the regulation employed by the feds to limit stupid lending practices which like in the states helped create the 2008 lending crisis with NINJA loans and such. I feel there should be more economic tests employed for loan approvals to prevent sinking ones unable to fulfill their obligations. Credit is a privilege not a right but in my 20 years of being a borrower I’ve seen it getting too bloody easy to attain credit. I think it’s a result of the entitled attitude of younger generations who never seen tough times, and a large supply of funds, coupled with government too afraid to let the house of cards fall. It used to be a lender wouldn’t want to give you too much rope but now they’ll give you a whole coil if you want. It’s scary.

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          #16
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          I agree totally. Canadian banks should be able to operate at a profit, but regulated to prevent gouging and bad loans.

          If people want non profit lenders there are local credit unions and FCC.

          Personally because the banks operate as businesses, they are a lot more business friendly than CU or FCC. But each to their own.
          Who's getting free stuff from FCC and CREDIT unions. They charge me for anything I want. Most banks could care less about loans ,the big money is in service charges debit cards and credit card fees.

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            #17
            Rising prices for a host of commodities and assets will do what rising interest rates would have done in a free and transparent capital market.

            Rising costs are wringing the profit right out of the manufacturing sector. Businesses cannot afford to upgrade plant and equipment to increase output.

            The marginal prospective homebuyer is getting priced out of the housing market. What happens when all those housing tracts are faced with a "no bid" scenario, or a bid that is below cost?

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              #18
              Originally posted by jwab
              Someone smarter than me please explain why banks need to be for profit?
              The same argument will be thrown at why does ag need to be for profit.

              I have socialist buddies that think food should be a free public service and a human right.

              In a capitalist system, risk is rewarded. Lending to millions of people is hardly risk free.

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                #19
                Originally posted by jazz View Post
                The same argument will be thrown at why does ag need to be for profit.


                In a capitalist system, risk is rewarded.
                Rewarded by who? When a company is rewarded by government with grants or subsidies....where is the risk?

                Just asking , not an argument,, I think you know where I am going with the question.

                As an example so called capitalists like Merit Foods are high on the list of grants. Brandt just received money. Avena foods. Are they capitalists? Brandt had a really good year according to the release.

                Are the farmers that get infrastructure and grants gifted to them in the irrigation areas, are they capitalists.

                Seems all that are mentioned above are technically socialists.

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                  #20
                  Commodity Price Peak?

                  Iron Ore Futures slipped 3% following subdued trade data indicating waning Chinese interest in the key steel ingredient. China imported 89.79 tonnes of iron ore in May, down 9% month on month. Tumbling steel prices and smaller profit margins added to the bearish sentiments in the market. Copper now cracking off recent historic highs.

                  U.S. Treasury yields slipping, now a sign of fading inflation. Pressure on gold straight ahead?

                  Grains: June swoon?

                  Crude Oil: Can $70 per barrel hold?

                  Crypto washout . . . .

                  Stock market manipulation may be the only glue left . . . .

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
                    Stock market manipulation may be the only glue left . . . .
                    Needs a trigger. Might as well be another variant of covid making the rounds in every country now.

                    I went to cash in my portfolio for the summer. Marketing all the rest of my crop this month. See where we are in the fall.

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                      #22
                      Originally posted by jazz View Post
                      Needs a trigger. Might as well be another variant of covid making the rounds in every country now.

                      I went to cash in my portfolio for the summer. Marketing all the rest of my crop this month. See where we are in the fall.
                      Go away in May?

                      Trying to time the market can be costly.

                      Holding good blue chips is the best way to go.

                      Never have to worry about jumping in and out.

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                        #23
                        I recently published https://klarenbach.substack.com/p/a-warning-in-bonds A Warning in Bonds? in the Klarenbach Report newsletter.



                        I believe that bonds often lead the overall market indices.

                        This analysis proved to be effective last January and February 2020 avoiding the crash.

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                          #24
                          Fed stated today, inflation hotter than they expected and they might have to increase rates two (2) years from now . . . 2023. And the market dumped on rate hike talk 2 years from now. Say what?

                          The Fed is hooped, the hole is far too deep . . . . They can’t increase rates as there would be an immediate deflationary backlash. And deflation is a central bank nightmare, a financial fire out of control (IMO).

                          The stock market is now so fearful of any dickerring with free money policy that this statement was enough to dump the market. Group, we are witnessing the bubble of all time bubbles.

                          Meanwhile in the commodity world, reality is being felt. Gold is now getting smoked (not very inflationary response), copper tumbling and grains, well you can see. Has crude topped?

                          VIX index oversold and far too complacent given the incoming storm ahead (IMO).

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