Alberta following Texas

[Blaithin]

The whole idea behind Wexit is to have people react to their discontent.

Let’s look at it this way.

If Kenney was leading a Wexit movement - because UCP was super gung ho with him to get rid of Notley discontent - would he be someone you want leading your new country?

If Wexit is voted in, who within that party do you think would be a genuine good leader for a new country?

Easy to say Let’s GTF out, I don’t like the politics of Canada, but honestly, out of the pan into the fire. There’s nobody preaching it that could properly head a newly developed country. So that leaves what? Join the States?

If you want to live under American Law, move to America.

If you want to make Alberta it’s own fledgling country, find someone who could actually manage that (good luck!)

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Blaithin, all emotions and resentment aside, this is an economic issue.
Canada with the exception of Alberta is aging to the point where they will all be a net drain on the economy in perpetuity. The west, with a young growing population and resources will increasingly be singlehandedly supporting the entire country. While simultaneously being beaten down with virtue signalling laws and regulations. While also being forced into submission by the US to keep our resources land locked and reliant on their market until we are forced to accept whatever terms they are willing to offer. They are already by far our largest trading partner, even compared with the rest of Canada.

Starting an independent land locked country with malicious neighbors on all sides would be ridiculous. One way or another we will be forced into joining the US. Either destitute after being bled dry by the rest of this former country, and unable to develop our resources, or from a position of relative economic strength when the US needs our commodities.

The outcome is inevitable, the route is yet to be determined.

At this point, it is about choosing the least worst option. And the least bad timing to do so. There is no good option right now. A strong commodity boom will be our best chance.

[sumdumguy]

I work with a guy that constantly says “I get no respect around here” It sounds just as juvenile coming from him as when Wexiteers say it.

If you had a young person working for you and they claimed they don’t get any respect, what would you do?

That phrase is almost exclusively 100% used by people who are mad because they don’t get their way.

I know a man who says that he gets no respect and he is controlled by a unbelievably abusive woman. She has an ap where she tracks his every move, every day of his life is pure hell. She screams and yells often starting first thing in morning and holds his feet to the fire on every thing he does. So chickee, you don’t know what its like for some so shove it!


And about being a cow on one side of the fence, most of my friends are on this side of the fence, the rest I don’t really care if they shun me because they might get a little cold, not worth the effort. I’ll survive.

[bucket]

I work with a guy that constantly says “I get no respect around here” It sounds just as juvenile coming from him as when Wexiteers say it.

If you had a young person working for you and they claimed they don’t get any respect, what would you do?

That phrase is almost exclusively 100% used by people who are mad because they don’t get their way.

Maybe he is boomer ( your term for older people) that watched alot of Rodney Dangerfield.

Maybe you are the one missing the humour in it all.

[Blaithin]

Blaithin, all emotions and resentment aside, this is an economic issue.
Canada with the exception of Alberta is aging to the point where they will all be a net drain on the economy in perpetuity. The west, with a young growing population and resources will increasingly be singlehandedly supporting the entire country. While simultaneously being beaten down with virtue signalling laws and regulations. While also being forced into submission by the US to keep our resources land locked and reliant on their market until we are forced to accept whatever terms they are willing to offer. They are already by far our largest trading partner, even compared with the rest of Canada.

Starting an independent land locked country with malicious neighbors on all sides would be ridiculous. One way or another we will be forced into joining the US. Either destitute after being bled dry by the rest of this former country, and unable to develop our resources, or from a position of relative economic strength when the US needs our commodities.

The outcome is inevitable, the route is yet to be determined.

Yes it’s economic but do you think being a State is going to improve the scenario?

We’d go from supporting 25 million people to 300 million. Or you don’t think we’d be supporting places like California and New York?

A large portion of the climate people posturing against Alberta oil are Americans/Californians. So they’re just going to approve all the pipelines after shutting them down because we’re American? Oil is a resource in purgatory. Alberta has bet on it too hard and is paying for it. Why should we bet everything on it again?

It’s a pipe dream. America is going through its own resource revolution against climate change and add in severe drought and a huge population. They’d bleed us dry faster than East ever will.

The East built the West. They have a solid 300 years on us. If we can’t manage a few decades of supporting them then wtf do we think being part of a country is even about? As resources change and economics fluctuate and populations grow all countries will experience changes and supports. The idea that we can always be appreciated and supported is a pipe dream.

[furrowtickler]

I have never “gotten” my way , had to earn it , every single thing over many years ..
that’s the difference in attitude now , you don’t get something your way , you gotta earn it .. most can’t comprehend that

Most of us knuckle dragging Agriviller’s here get it ..

[Blaithin]

I have never “gotten” my way , had to earn it , every single thing over many years ..
that’s the difference in attitude now , you don’t get something your way , you gotta earn it .. most can’t comprehend that

Most of us knuckle dragging Agriviller’s here get it ..

Who decides when you’ve done enough to earn something?

[chuckChuck]

I have never “gotten” my way , had to earn it , every single thing over many years ..
that’s the difference in attitude now , you don’t get something your way , you gotta earn it .. most can’t comprehend that

Most of us knuckle dragging Agriviller’s here get it ..

Just how did Alberta earn its massive oil and gas reserves?

[Blaithin]

Maybe he is boomer ( your term for older people) that watched alot of Rodney Dangerfield.

Maybe you are the one missing the humour in it all.

Boomer is a term for baby boomer, not my term. Which I’m sure you know.

And no, he’s early 20s and probably doesn’t know who Rodney Dangerfield is. If many on here heard him say it I’m sure they would scoff at him and launch into stories of “when I was your age....!”

Which is where I pause and try and find the difference. Why can older generations say it about Alberta and it’s legit but if a young adult says it it’s worthy of scorn. To me they are very, very similar. Discontent people with an inflated sense of self worth.

[Blaithin]

It’s not about getting your way. That’s a lousy analogy!!

What’s it about then?

You don’t want to pay equalization.
You want them to buy our oil.
You want pipelines passed.
You don’t want a carbon tax.
Could probably tack on more political representation for the smaller west population.

It wouldn’t matter what the East says about the West of all those things went our way.