Residential Schools

[jazz]

This time I agree with Agstar.
Not one priest or nun who staffed the schools were raised with a sense of compassion or wrong?
The common denominator at Nuremberg was Nazism not necessarily office or birthplace.

Another question is why were these boarding schools? Why did indian kids have to live at them away from their family? Where did that asinine policy come from? I doubt the church thought it up. Sounds like govt to me.

The govt is also the ones who wouldnt pay to have childrens bodies properly returned to family members.

One might be able to explain some of this because it was the unenlightened 1800s but this policy endured right up in the 1950-90s when someone should have been looking at it closer. And doubled down on by Trudeau Sr.

[BreadWinner]

There was always those that said residential schools were a good thing for First Nations kids. I am starting to wonder if those people are rethinking it now. History in highschool was useless 30 years ago, they thought us nothing about this, they taught about the Roman Empire and hardly even touched on history in the 19 Century. I’m thinking this was taught because they didn’t was us to know recent history and the Sad history in our own country. I wonder if JT will cry his was through a apology from his dad, one big Hater of First Nations people out west.

[furrowtickler]

Politicians in power at the time are as much or more to blame as the church ..... PET
As prof from that above

[Blaithin]

Another question is why were these boarding schools? Why did indian kids have to live at them away from their family? Where did that asinine policy come from? I doubt the church thought it up. Sounds like govt to me.

There are no dumb questions but those come awfully close.

They were trying to wipe out the culture. Of course the Church would do it. Christian religions have tried to steal, burn, torture, usurp and do anything necessary to get heretic religions to disappear practically since it’s origin. (Not saying Christianity is the only religion to use this practice.)

You can’t eradicate a culture if you let the kids go home and live in it. You need to remove them from it. You need to take the culture away. You need to make them dependent on the new religion. Think the Jesuit’s who arrived even before there was a country were all nice and friendly and never tried to convert Indigenous people? Can’t blame Trudeaus for them.

Government or church, neither is innocent and neither is worse than the other.

If reconciliation in the form of apologies and payments is wanted then where’s the Pope? He fronts the other half of this.

[agstar77]

Politicians in power at the time are as much or more to blame as the church ..... PET
As prof from that above

The priests and Nuns were forced to be cruel by the Government? The churchs had a great deal of power at one time. They were not forced to get rid of the grave markers, which is a criminal offence.

[Taiga]

Great, everyone agrees this is the churches fault/problem/responsibility, lobby the govt to seize their assets and keep your hands out of my pockets.

[ajl]

Have heard from more than one aboriginal person that the residential schools were how they acquired a basic education and allowed them to move forward. Sure there was abuses but there was also good news stories as well which are not part of the official narrative. That narrative is of course being used to foment a Hitleresque anti Christian hate which seems to be working. As somebody pointed out on another site: why don't they go looking for unmarked graves on the sites of government run institutions such as asylums, and TB hospitals as well from the 50's and 60's.

[sumdumguy]

Every headline on every paper same thing. Over a hundred years I am sure some people died. Isn’t it possible that the schools were unable to contact families to come and take the corpse?

[Blaithin]

Ever met someone who was medically experimented on at a residential school?

I have.

Who removes children from home and submits them to medical experiments and tries to hide it behind “well we gave them a basic education so we’re good”.

If your child was taken from your home and medically experimented on and there was nothing you could do.... how would you feel? Your grandchildren?

[burnt]

Ever met someone who was medically experimented on at a residential school?

I have.

Who removes children from home and submits them to medical experiments and tries to hide it behind “well we gave them a basic education so we’re good”.

If your child was taken from your home and medically experimented on and there was nothing you could do.... how would you feel? Your grandchildren?

Just reading that makes me sick to my stomach and rage at the same time.

It's very easy to criticize past actions.

What is a bit more challenging is to forge a way forward.

Does Western society today have any legitimate claim to moral or ethical superiority?