Free speech comes with responsibilities

[AlbertaFarmer5]

And speaking of kindergarten, this thread reminds me of the playground back in those days when there was always the one teacher's pet who would tattle on everyone else.
Some things never change

But I'm not sure why you are so concerned about censoring other posters. If even you were smart enough to decide all by yourself what is and isn't fake news, then surely almost anyone else with equal or greater mental capacity should be able to come to the same conclusions, so there should be no need to silence dissenting opinions.

[chuckChuck]

And speaking of kindergarten, this thread reminds me of the playground back in those days when there was always the one teacher's pet who would tattle on everyone else.
Some things never change

But I'm not sure why you are so concerned about censoring other posters. If even you were smart enough to decide all by yourself what is and isn't fake news, then surely almost anyone else with equal or greater mental capacity should be able to come to the same conclusions, so there should be no need to silence dissenting opinions.

Social media and crap internet sites have sped up the dissemination of stupidity.

In the "good old days" it took several months or years for wacky uninformed conspiracy theories from uninformed charlatans to spread through the population. Now it can happen in a matter of minutes.

Some posters have hard time understanding the difference between high quality reliable sources of information and low quality unreliable sources and are often too busy or too lazy to dig a little deeper.

Couple that with and anti science, anti evidence and anti expert sentiment often held by those with a certain world view, and you get a considerable amount of wing nut ideas that should never see the light of day.

Coupled with confirmation bias, we then get bonehead ideas that covid is a hoax, vaccines are more dangeous than covid, and that there is a giant world wide conspiracy to use covid and vaccines to control the population.

Infectious diseases have been with us for ever and have killed millions upon millions, untill rather recently in human history.

And the only thing that has saved most of us from the many many diseases, epidemics and pandemics and an early death has been science, hygiene, medicine, vaccines and anitbiotics.

[blackjack]

There are things you write about chuck chuck that are true it’s just the type of people like yourself that would legislate your beliefs on society that is the huge difference.

[chuckChuck]

There are things you write about chuck chuck that are true it’s just the type of people like yourself that would legislate your beliefs on society that is the huge difference.

Often when I present evidence from reliable world class scientific organizations, I am often told by the usual suspects on Agriville that the organizations are wrong or corrupt.

But no credible evidence countering these world class scientific organizations and their conclusions ever seem to materialize.

Science is not belief its based on evidence.

If the majority of the scientists come up with very similar conclusions from similar data sets from multiple sources then you can be pretty sure their conclusions are reliable.

[agstar77]

That's the nature of science trying and sometimes failing. Learning from your mistakes. If you don't understand that , you do not understand science.

[sumdumguy]

Science has been making a lot of mistakes lately and many colossal mistakes may surface in the future. That may be why many have taken a wait-and-see attitude when politicians push out hurry-up vaccines that take short-cuts.

[agstar77]

Where are the shortcuts? All trials were done . The only thing missing is full FDA approval. This due to study of effects on storage life and other minor investigations. Another false narrative. Just because science has moved on in the development of vaccines does not mean any safety evaluation were skipped.

[burnt]

Where are the shortcuts? All trials were done . The only thing missing is full FDA approval. This due to study of effects on storage life and other minor investigations. Another false narrative. Just because science has moved on in the development of vaccines does not mean any safety evaluation were skipped.

There is a level of ignorance - deliberate of unintentional in some of these replies that defies imagination.

What a spokesman for the jabbers.

[Casered]

The vax is 3-5x more likley to end in hospitalization than covid for ages 12-17

[Casered]

Where are the shortcuts? All trials were done . The only thing missing is full FDA approval. This due to study of effects on storage life and other minor investigations. Another false narrative. Just because science has moved on in the development of vaccines does not mean any safety evaluation were skipped.

You make no sense. How can long term trials be done when the vax hasn't even been administered for two years yet?

[agstar77]

The vax is 3-5x more likley to end in hospitalization than covid for ages 12-17[/QUOTE]
In a word garbage.

[Guest]

No vaccine with this track record would have been approved in the past.

Empire strikes back quote

“If you want to gain new knowledge, you must clear your mind from biases or your own frame of references. If you don’t open your mind, you will not be able to absorb whatever teachings/lessons 100%”

In other words
If you have closed your mind you are done learning

[Casered]

The vax is 3-5x more likley to end in hospitalization than covid for ages 12-17

In a word garbage.[/QUOTE]


Haha. That's the best you can muster? Try harder. That info was pulled from Robert Malones twitter. The inventor of mrna tech. We need to trust experts I thought? You talk of science but only belive it when it conforms to your narrow view of this.

[Kraut]

No vaccine with this track record would have been approved in the past.

Empire strikes back quote

“If you want to gain new knowledge, you must clear your mind from biases or your own frame of references. If you don’t open your mind, you will not be able to absorb whatever teachings/lessons 100%”

That is not an Empire Strikes Back quote. That is someone on the internet being pretentious with the actual quote of "You must unlearn what you have learned"

[foragefarmer]

Can't even copy the right quote, not surprising!

Fits the narrative of a copy and paster.