Another false naritive by bgl. No such speech. Where do you find this crap troll? Did you know you can check things with google? Why do you post this stuff? Some kind of sickness?
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Those who disagree or say something different are quietly silenced. The doctors who believe in science and follow the protocols but systematically think out what is really going on are pushed aside in the media because supposedly they are in the minority they don’t tow the line with the supposed majority. Of course we have covid which our people in the medical community see every day I don’t dispute that. I can’t fault those in leadership who surround themselves with like minded people. Just saying don’t be stuck on the narrative that seems to be pushed
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I would have understood consistency like organics and opposition to use of chemical formulations, and conventional and a support for forb destruction products. But no, it all gets reversed on agri vile posts on the value of vaccines.
Here is an analogy you might understand. Farmers have a Group 2 resistant problem in their fields. Do they continue to use this ineffective product, or give up on it? Does the chemical company continue to insist their Group 2 chemical will control the resistant weeds, or develop a new Group? I would hope that the prudent chemical company would have a next gen ready made shelf product to take over from a widespread resistant problem weed, for both their clients and their own company's well being?
I think Pfizer is testing the market with a tweaked product that will handle the change in characteristics of new troublesome variants. The client isn't convinced the old product is ineffective, and needs to be given up on, yet. The prudent company needs more convincing data to make the sale.
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Originally posted by checking View PostI would have understood consistency like organics and opposition to use of chemical formulations, and conventional and a support for forb destruction products. But no, it all gets reversed on agri vile posts on the value of vaccines.
Here is an analogy you might understand. Farmers have a Group 2 resistant problem in their fields. Do they continue to use this ineffective product, or give up on it? Does the chemical company continue to insist their Group 2 chemical will control the resistant weeds, or develop a new Group? I would hope that the prudent chemical company would have a next gen ready made shelf product to take over from a widespread resistant problem weed, for both their clients and their own company's well being?
I think Pfizer is testing the market with a tweaked product that will handle the change in characteristics of new troublesome variants. The client isn't convinced the old product is ineffective, and needs to be given up on, yet. The prudent company needs more convincing data to make the sale.
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Originally posted by J88 View PostIt’s like saying hats off to those who listened to the truth and sold all their Canola last fall and especially now those experts wbho say we have a Bumper crop coming
There is a large part of the explanation on why farmers and ranchers assess information for themselves.
Education is expensive.
If we took all expert advice unchallenged we might have even less neighbors.
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Originally posted by Casered View PostMy analogy is when a new untested and unknown canola variety comes out do you blindly trust basf and seed all your acres to it? Cause we are seeding the whole farm by vaxing the world.
Why not accept the fact that we may have got lucky beyond what could have been expected. Pity that the world didn't have it sitting on the shelf at day one.
Or understand the chance of a positive outcome was better than knowing if we waited on your advice there would be a larger mega cluster of negative outcomes. I, again, refer you to Maryland as an example of proof of those who once believed you.
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Originally posted by sumdumguy View PostHow could anything be more prophetic?
If you need a booster, you get a booster. Problem solved.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-henry-kissinger-quote-manda-idUSKBN22Y251 https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-henry-kissinger-quote-manda-idUSKBN22Y251
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Originally posted by jwabAgain a sign of not understanding, no one was talking about going after a resistant weed. It was about how they got resistance in the first place, no different than vaccines. Plants that are able to withstand chemicals go on and multiply, same with viruses, the ones that bypass vaccines and infect those with antibodies from infection or vaccination thrive and go on spreading the new “variant†of themselves. This is how variants gain foothold and spread. Calling unvaccinated people variant factories is irresponsible, it’s just another way of trying to guilt people into getting vaccinated.
“Problem solved†comment, how naive.
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Two questions keep coming up in my mind:
#1- So a few cases of the dreaded Delta Variant shows up in the last few days but with our robust contact tracing and quarantine measures we don’t stop it in the bud, we allow these few cases to radiate out just as Trudeau left the borders open the entire Covid Circus.
#2. Immunity Testing: why aren’t there any available immunity tests where people can check their immunity? Those who have had Covid and those who escaped it time and again don’t need their vaccination. Is our science so dismal?
In the back of my mind I wonder if the reason why immunity testing is not available to us is because the vaccinated ones might get a big surprise along with their green card.
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Covid will be with us for the forseeable future. As long as there are lots of unvaccinated hosts to contract and spread the infection, more serious covid variants will be endemic at some level.
Since only the more developed richer countries can afford to keep vaccinating their populations, developing countries with higher infection rates will provide a source of new variants that will likely overcome the immunity that vaccinations provide.
The good news is that vaccinations still offer a great deal of protection from serious cases that would otherwise make you much sicker and possibly put you in the hospital. Vaccines will need to be updated as new variants appear. Just like the annual flu shots.
Those that can't and won't get vaccinated will find restrictions on where they can go and what they can do, for at least a while
Will travel insurance cover people who don't get vaccinated? The good news is you won't have to listen to the rabid antivaxers drone on at your favorite tropical holiday spot. They will be enjoying their winter holidays at home.Last edited by chuckChuck; Jul 11, 2021, 08:04.
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