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    #37
    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    And just like Chuck, to kick the farmer when he is down, by brow beating him with global warming.

    And just to show how clueless and out of touch with the "science" he is, he lumps hotter and drier together.

    All of the science from all of his favourite sources indicates that a warmer atmosphere holds more moisture which results in more precipitation.
    A warmer atmosphere holds more moisture but can also results in larger rain events. So more precipitation all at once doesn't mean you get the rain when you need it during hotter and drier periods. 5-10 inches all at once does more harm than good.

    I doubt California, the desert southwest,the west coast and the Okanagan would be happy about hotter drier summers considering they are already experiencing record breaking heat waves and drought.
    Last edited by chuckChuck; Jul 11, 2021, 16:36.

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      #38
      Less planes flying and there is warmer temps. Explain to me how climate change works

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        #39
        Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
        Our Canola fields are Nexera for BUNGE. We have no seed Canola.

        Most of our seed fields will get no fungicide as they are way too dry and too far gone for fungicide to do any good or increase yields.

        A good chunk along east Edm Anthony Hendy has had less than an inch from seeding May 1
        Canola seeded May 4 is finished blooming and it is July 11.
        Never seen it like this except for 2002.

        Cheers
        Was not talking canola , been around long enough to know that .
        Was talking cereals , pulses . But maybe you missed that

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          #40
          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
          A warmer atmosphere holds more moisture but can also results in larger rain events. So more precipitation all at once doesn't mean you get the rain when you need it during hotter and drier periods. 5-10 inches all at once does more harm than good.

          I doubt California, the desert southwest,the west coast and the Okanagan would be happy about hotter drier summers considering they are experiencing record breaking heat waves and drought.
          True , but records that were made before climate Armageddon was even dreamed up

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            #41
            Originally posted by seldomseen View Post
            Hot dry summer is nothing new. The Prairies has been through this many times in the past and the World keeps bumping along. Markets seem to jump with the threat of drought but when the results come in they kind of yawn and look elsewhere in the World.
            As for Chuck with a little rain the crops would be ok with the heat. Below 0 nothing grows no matter how much it snows!
            Or freezes at the end of August

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              #42
              Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
              True , but records that were made before climate Armageddon was even dreamed up
              Yes,that area has experienced mega droughts that lasted for hundreds of years. Chuck has no clue.

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                #43
                Note the declining trend in drought frequency, longevity, and severity in the era of global warming
                Edit, this is for Swift Current from this site: https://climatedata.ca/case-study/drought-and-agriculture/ https://climatedata.ca/case-study/drought-and-agriculture/


                Almost anyone farming today in the semi arid prairies has only known good times punctuated by short dry spells. Benign would be the best word to describe the almost ideal weather( relatively speaking) that we all know. We have no point of reference for what a return to normal would be like. Palliser probably could help us understand. The extremes of all types from early 20th century really makes one respect the pioneers who survived them, to say nothing of the extremes from prior to official records being kept.

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                  #44
                  Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                  Note the declining trend in drought frequency, longevity, and severity in the era of global warming
                  Edit, this is for Swift Current from this site: https://climatedata.ca/case-study/drought-and-agriculture/ https://climatedata.ca/case-study/drought-and-agriculture/


                  Almost anyone farming today in the semi arid prairies has only known good times punctuated by short dry spells. Benign would be the best word to describe the almost ideal weather( relatively speaking) that we all know. We have no point of reference for what a return to normal would be like. Palliser probably could help us understand. The extremes of all types from early 20th century really makes one respect the pioneers who survived them, to say nothing of the extremes from prior to official records being kept.
                  The 1960s were dry in Our part of north central Alberta… NE Alberta being so wet for 5 years is in shock (dry) this year.
                  Will need cool weather to draw the reserve moisture up to finish the crops if no rain… if cool it is amazing how plants can suck up subsoil water. August 2002 was when the hay from Ontario came on rail. 2002 Edm 235mm 473mm 2003.

                  The 30day average is bleak… usually what makes our crop.

                  https://www.agr.gc.ca/DW-GS/historical-historiques.jspx?jsEnabled=true

                  Hope this worked!


                  Cheers
                  Last edited by TOM4CWB; Jul 11, 2021, 15:33.

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                    #45
                    Somebody mentioned Palliser? This map is a mosaic from 10-14 days ago. Hardly any cloud those days
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                      #46
                      Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                      Note the declining trend in drought frequency, longevity, and severity in the era of global warming
                      Edit, this is for Swift Current from this site: https://climatedata.ca/case-study/drought-and-agriculture/ https://climatedata.ca/case-study/drought-and-agriculture/


                      Almost anyone farming today in the semi arid prairies has only known good times punctuated by short dry spells. Benign would be the best word to describe the almost ideal weather( relatively speaking) that we all know. We have no point of reference for what a return to normal would be like. Palliser probably could help us understand. The extremes of all types from early 20th century really makes one respect the pioneers who survived them, to say nothing of the extremes from prior to official records being kept.
                      This is what the paper you referenced above says about climate change and drought potential on the prairies:

                      "What are the Future Possible Drought Threats?

                      A general increasing risk of drought is expected with a warming climate for the southern Canadian prairies, despite projected increases in precipitation in some areas and seasons9. More intense and larger area droughts with increased variability are projected9,10,11,12,13. Increased drying trends are documented, especially for the Prairies, that become more dominant during the 2050s (Figures 3 and 4) and with higher emission scenarios because of higher temperatures and longer warm seasons. The severe infamous droughts of the “dirty 30s”, early 1960s, 1980s and early 2000s may pale in comparison with future droughts."
                      Last edited by chuckChuck; Jul 11, 2021, 16:37.

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                        #47
                        Why do all of your catastrophic scenarios occur in the future tense? The trend so far runs completely opposite to what the computer models are claiming the future holds.

                        That looks like an abject failure of the projections.

                        I don't make my living in the future.

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                          #48
                          Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                          Why do all of your catastrophic scenarios occur in the future tense? The trend so far runs completely opposite to what the computer models are claiming the future holds.

                          That looks like an abject failure of the projections.

                          I don't make my living in the future.

                          https://climatedata.ca/explore/location/?loc=HATYU&location-select-temperature=tx_max&location-select-precipitation=rx1day&location-select-other=frost_days https://climatedata.ca/explore/location/?loc=HATYU&location-select-temperature=tx_max&location-select-precipitation=rx1day&location-select-other=frost_days

                          Lets take a look at Leader SK just north of Swift Current.

                          Leader, SK

                          For the 1951-1980 period, the annual average temperature was 3.4 ºC; for 1981-2010 it was 4.5 ºC. Under a high emissions scenario, annual average temperatures are projected to be 6.2 ºC for the 2021-2050 period, 8.3 ºC for the 2051-2080 period and 9.8 ºC for the last 30 years of this century.

                          Average annual precipitation for the 1951-1980 period was 332 mm. Under a high emissions scenario, this is projected to be 9% higher for the 2021-2050 period, 12% higher for the 2051-2080 period and 13% higher for the last 30 years of this century.

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