Tell me what has changed

[burnt]

Who would endorse an abusive relationship?

The responses - seem to indicate that those who oppose this evil regime outnumber the supporters by about 100:1. Or maybe 1000:1?

Yet the majority people capitulate to what they recognize as an evil movement?

"The truth will set you free". Nothing else.

[dmlfarmer]

I have tried to abstain from commenting on the Covid misinformation campaign happening on this forum because any post by either side simply enforces and contributes to further misinformation. However, I do want to share the lead story in today's New York Times about the number one source of Covid misinformation in the world. It discusses Dr Mercola (a person who has been quoted a number of times on this forum by some) and the misinformation he spreads and why. (Surprise, surprise, he is making millions off his facebook posts of misinformation, and the selling of "natural" cures for Covid. Both sides of this debate should read this article before posting anything else about Covid) A good read. It is entitled The Most Influential Spreader of Coronavirus Misinformation Online

Sorry I cannot hotlink this article but just search the web for the above title or you can copy and paste the following link: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/24/technology/joseph-mercola-coronavirus-misinformation-online.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210725&ins tance_id=36213&nl=the-morning&regi_id=50975083&segment_id=64389&te=1&use r_id=7a12d123dfb1d02ee141dbfea005288b

[burnt]

I have tried to abstain from commenting on the Covid misinformation campaign happening on this forum because any post by either side simply enforces and contributes to further misinformation. However, I do want to share the lead story in today's New York Times about the number one source of Covid misinformation in the world. It discusses Dr Mercola (a person who has been quoted a number of times on this forum by some) and the misinformation he spreads and why. (Surprise, surprise, he is making millions off his facebook posts of misinformation, and the selling of "natural" cures for Covid. Both sides of this debate should read this article before posting anything else about Covid) A good read. It is entitled The Most Influential Spreader of Coronavirus Misinformation Online

Sorry I cannot hotlink this article but just search the web for the above title or you can copy and paste the following link: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/24/technology/joseph-mercola-coronavirus-misinformation-online.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20210725&ins tance_id=36213&nl=the-morning&regi_id=50975083&segment_id=64389&te=1&use r_id=7a12d123dfb1d02ee141dbfea005288b

So you, too, are the arbiter of "misinformation"?

Good thing you constantly display a complete absence of bias!

Otherwise, you could be mistaken for just another conspiracy theorist, wouldn't you.

"In his influential 1928 book “Propaganda,” Bernays highlights the need to utilize people’s emotions to steer public opinion. He states:

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in the democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of the country.” "

Things that make you go hmmm.

[chuckChuck]

So when did giving vaccines to prevent infectious disease to lower the hospitalization and death rate and the rigorous science that supports vaccines for that purpose, become propaganda? LOL

We have been using vaccines around the world for many many decades for just that purpose.

Almost everyone on this site will have been vaccinated for something.

Good heathcare policy and programs focus on prevention, which is what vaccines are for.

If this is the hill you want to die on, you may literally get your chance if you remain unvaccinated in the next months and years. The statistics don't lie.

Covid and covid variants are going to be around at some level for a long time at the rate the world is vaccinating.

Some people will only change their minds when they or some one else they are close to succumbs to a disease. Some are still in denial as they take their last breaths in a hospital that covid is real.

There is nothing that can be done to convince the very small number of people who are that disconnected from reality to change their minds.

[sumdumguy]

Basic human rights to life, liberty and freedom of expression - and pursuit of happiness. I am free to decide what goes into my body.

[jazz]

Was hoping to have a rational discussion with oneoff but he is way down in the weeds and his TDS is flaring up. Besides, I have people to kill with my semi vaccinated status.

Here is another tidbit of the staggering misinformation from the health experts. If you dont want to watch the video I will summarize. 2 Most vaccinated countries, UK and Israel have diverging protections from vaccines.

Whats the difference, well Israel put shots 3 weeks apart, UK put them 3 months apart. Remember when they were tell us the better protection was longer duration between shots. Well so much for that.

He predicts a large portion of the close dose vaccinated will start getting covid again and boosters will be needed rapidly.

[chuckChuck]

Being vaccinated will actually provide more freedom in the current covid pandemic than remaining unvaccinated.

More travel options. Easier access to events. Some freedom from worry about covid. Less chance you will be sick and unable to work for a few days or longer. The advantages and small amount of risk outweigh the the disadvantages by a huge margin.

Just ask anyone unvaccinated who ended up in hospital with covid how much freedom they enjoyed during their hospital stay. Most will say I should have gotten the vaccine.

[chuckChuck]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.

Some can’t see the forest for the trees.

Don't be so hard on your self.

What ever your problem is, I am sure someone will help you if you just ask for help.

[burnt]

Was hoping to have a rational discussion with oneoff but he is way down in the weeds and his TDS is flaring up. Besides, I have people to kill with my semi vaccinated status.

Priceless. But not unprecedented -

[burnt]

I realize many don’t want to expand their minds, it takes time and energy.


Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

“We didn't love freedom enough”

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