Tell me what has changed

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I wouldn't lose any sleep over the probable misinformation being propagated on this site.

It is the same handful of posters preaching to each other on one side, and the well intended but hapless Agstar on the other side keeping the issue alive, but doing more harm than good in the process.

It seems that everyone else has accepted reality and long since lost interest and moved on.

The unique visitors to these threads outside of the warring factions of regular contributors has likely approached zero. So their influence on popular opinion has also approached zero.

[oneoff]

Your last comment has no merit. Segregating based on vaccination status has no merit as well. Vaccinated can be carrier, transmitters, no different than unvaccinated, in fact possibly more likely as they won’t have symptoms to tell them to stay home.
Media pushes how effective vaccine is against delta, not do much, 39% effective according to Israel studies. As time goes by maybe you will come to understand, it’s not going away.
Vaccines are developed to stop transmission, this one is failing at the main reason vaccines are used.

Long term effects of the vaccine have yet to be seen. Ever heard of “antibody dependent reaction”?

I think one of Dr. Fauci's retorts to a senate session hearing questioner would be appropriate.

His retort was " You don't know what you are talking about". And shortly thereafter he added emphasis with "you don't know what you are talking about".

[Sheepwheat]

I think one of Dr. Fauci's retorts to a senate session hearing questioner would be appropriate.

His retort was " You don't know what you are talking about". And shortly thereafter he added emphasis with "you don't know what you are talking about".

You think that was effective? He was talking to a doctor. And the doctor cornered him like the slimy rat he is, so all he could do was try out an insult. He failed. Maybe try watching the whole exchange, not just the cnn version of events.

[agstar77]

Dr.Rand Paul slimy rat. You are right.

[Sheepwheat]

Dr.Rand Paul slimy rat. You are right.

Explain.

[oneoff]

You think that was effective? He was talking to a doctor. And the doctor cornered him like the slimy rat he is, so all he could do was try out an insult. He failed. Maybe try watching the whole exchange, not just the cnn version of events.

This is for you sheep.....A person saves deserved responses to suit the occasion. Rand Paul's attack on Dr. Fauci was such a situation that elicited "You don't know what you're talking about". Especially when you are talking to a professional "peer" like a "colleague" who as a "professional" "doctor" is directly addressing YOU (another doctor).

Rand Paul didn't have a suitable response. Now maybe YOU would rationalize that his time had expired ...or that Rand Paul had won the "banter". Those are childish deflections about what is really involved in Rand Pauls attack on a person's credibility.

But Rand Paul should still have a black eye from the slap down that he deservedly received.

Now Sheep and the misinformation you spout about Covid. Please tend to stick to farm animals; their care and topics that you have more knowledge than most others; and refrain from commenting repeatedly about "what you don't know what you are talking about"

[oneoff]

I wouldn't lose any sleep over the probable misinformation being propagated on this site.

It is the same handful of posters preaching to each other on one side, and the well intended but hapless Agstar on the other side keeping the issue alive, but doing more harm than good in the process.

It seems that everyone else has accepted reality and long since lost interest and moved on.

The unique visitors to these threads outside of the warring factions of regular contributors has likely approached zero. So their influence on popular opinion has also approached zero.

AF5...if only your analysis were true. Reality has not been accepted by those who need to see it most. There are hordes of real people on the face of the earth to be infected with the delta variant and most probably more infectious future variants. The empty Olympic stands speaks to those who will listen. THIS IS A DISEASE WHERE IT STARTED FROM ONE CASE(S) AND GREW EXPONENTIALLY. NOTHING HAS CHANGED . THERE IS STILL WELL BEYOND ONE ACTIVE CASE. CAN'T LET YOUR GUARD DOWN...AND THATS JUST WHAT THE CURRENT SITUATION IS. OPEN BOTH EYES AND YOUR MINDS.

To bury your head in the sand and claim this pandemic is over may not turn out to be true.

Whe I PM'ed the moderator on March 29/2021 (look at the initial post for proof) you will see that what was written 4 months ago is pretty accurate as to what is today's situation.

Just because we are hurrying to try to get this epidemic over before the typical fall and winter flu season arrives; does not make it so.

Vaccinations work; are safe ...get it done before you regret the consequences of ignoring those who society has put in charge of advising on public health.

[chuckChuck]

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/unvaccinated-albertans-are-majority-of-covid-cases-hospitalizations-deaths-hinshaw

Unvaccinated Albertans are majority of COVID cases, hospitalizations, deaths: Alberta's top doctor says

Alberta has one of the lowest rates of vaccination in the country, despite previously leading the way

"Dr. Deena Hinshaw, who is Alberta’s chief medical officer of health, said in a social media post that 96 per cent of Albertans who have tested positive for the virus since Jan. 1 hadn’t had two doses of vaccine.

She said 91 per cent of COVID-19 deaths and 95 per cent of hospital and intensive care unit admissions followed the same trend in the past month.

On Thursday, Quebec Health Minister Christian Dube similarly said on Twitter that 95 per cent of people who tested positive for COVID-19 last week and those who were hospitalized were not adequately vaccinated.

Wholly crap antivaxers and covid deniers! Even in the heartland of "freedom" loving Canada in Alberta, the statistics can't be ignored, unless you are on a crusade against common sense.

So cut the crap and get the vax so that we can return to normal as soon as possible. There are a lot of people who are waiting for elective surgery and healthcare and we don't need to tie up the health care system with more covid cases because you are confused about good preventative healthcare and freedom.

If you are truly a fiscal conservative and want governments to spend less money on healthcare, here is your chance to save everybody more money.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

AF5...if only your analysis were true. Reality has not been accepted by those who need to see it most.

But if you bother to read the unsubstantiated claims from obscure and discredited sources that they keep dragging up, you would see that no one any critical thinking skills would take them seriously.
Truly a case of giving them enough rope to hang themselves.
No different than letting Chuck rant and rave about the energy sector, climate change or other topics of which he hasn't the slightest qualifications or clue. The more he posts, the the more credibility he loses.
In both cases, very little effort or encouragement is required to let them ruin their own reputations.

[jazz]

Lets ask oneoff a very simple question. is there anything about this pandemic, its handling, the health information dispensed, the guidelines set and enforced, the narrative from the media, the medical data etc that elicits any questions in your so called logical mind. Anything at all? One single thing that would point to a reason to be wary about what has been told to us and demand a just a little more clarification. Any little thing at all?

I will wait for you to process that one.

[burnt]

If anyone claims there is no God, they have never met oneoff!

That's my compliment for the day.

You're welcome.

[oneoff]

If anyone claims there is no God, they have never met oneoff!

That's my compliment for the day.

You're welcome.

That brings to mind a memory from 50 plus years ago. In a conversation with what even the seemed an old neighbor; the talk got around to religion. This old timer came from a highly religious family and was and still is remembered (though obviously by fewer people who knew him personally) as having what was known as a "dry humour".

Anyways; he made the comment that he lost all his religion (whilst still a young man) during the time his mother suffered an excruciating painful death.

He further commented that his reasoning was that "if there were a God; he would not have tortured such a willing servant as his mother had always been"
So compliment not interpreted or received as intended; but thanks for thinking of me. I still do repeat a few of his stories; this being one of them. PS I don't recall meeting you...perhaps didn't recognize you.l