Tell me what has changed

[jazz]

CDC study shows 74% of people infected in Massachusetts Covid outbreak were fully vaccinated

About three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated against the coronavirus, according to new data published Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The new data, published in the U.S. agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, also found that fully vaccinated people carry as much of the virus in their nose as unvaccinated people, and could spread it to other individuals.

“This finding is concerning and was a pivotal discovery leading to CDC’s updated mask recommendation,” CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said in a statement. “The masking recommendation was updated to ensure the vaccinated public would not unknowingly transmit virus to others, including their unvaccinated or immunocompromised loved ones.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html

[Taiga]

But this does not fit the Tweety/Agstar/Oneoff official narrative.
Let me parrot the answer for them:
“Fake news. The only way out of this pandemic is when everyone is fully vaccinated.”

[burnt]

Seems like 50 years ago, Zager and Evans had a peek at change -

[sumdumguy]

I have maintained Parsley’s Notebook. So we do have an option for a meeting place for farmers.

Free speech is a pillar of a free society. pars

Maybe we need to learn to speak in a different language, our own language.

[tweety]

CDC study shows 74% of people infected in Massachusetts Covid outbreak were fully vaccinated

About three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated against the coronavirus, according to new data published Friday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The new data, published in the U.S. agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, also found that fully vaccinated people carry as much of the virus in their nose as unvaccinated people, and could spread it to other individuals.

“This finding is concerning and was a pivotal discovery leading to CDC’s updated mask recommendation,” CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said in a statement. “The masking recommendation was updated to ensure the vaccinated public would not unknowingly transmit virus to others, including their unvaccinated or immunocompromised loved ones.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html

But they aren't sick like the unvax'd. In other words, if you are unvax'd, you will get the delta from every source from every direction, from the vax'd, and the unvax'd.

Stats finally out on the 165 million vaccinated in the US.
0.1% infected
0.001% died
0.004% hospitalized

Here's hoping you misinformation Jihadists will get to experience the Delta Variant - it'll take your breath away and it certainly is to die for.

On the plus side, the countries average literacy rate should rise over the next few months as this is a pandemic of the unvax'd who certainly are a "type". You can sure see that here.


Ahhhh free speech. Never forget the 6 basic restrictions that public authorities impose on free speech when:

They are worried about national security or public safety
They want to prevent disorder or crime
They feel it will protect health or morals
They want to protect the rights and reputations of others
They are protecting confidential information
They need to maintain the authority and impartiality of judges.

Doesn't mean you can say anything you want without any consequence. And if you think you can - you're probably also not vaccinated against covid.

[TOM4CWB]

Respect for others;
Stay 2M away from others in public places, if possible don't get in confined indoor spaces for prolonged periods.

Shop for groceries and parts in low traffic times of days when easy to stay well away from people you don't know where they have been or how healthy they are.

Wear a N95mask if this is not possible..

Respect others who need space and don't be in a hurry being last may mean a safe healthy trip...

Have a wonderful harvest! Cheers

[burnt]

Respect for others;
Stay 2M away from others in public places, if possible don't get in confined indoor spaces for prolonged periods.

Shop for groceries and parts in low traffic times of days when easy to stay well away from people you don't know where they have been or how healthy they are.

Wear a N95mask if this is not possible..

Respect others who need space and don't be in a hurry being last may mean a safe healthy trip...

Have a wonderful harvest! Cheers

Which brings us back to oneoff's original Q:

"Tell me what has changed".

Over 1 1/2 years later, trillions in spending, millions allegedly died, promises, jabs that sorta work but actually backfire, very fluid goalposts...

And some say the critics are the crazy ones?

[jensend]

I can tell you one thing that has changed: Agriville used to have civil discourse and even some wit as topics were discussed and opinions exchanged. My profile says I've been here since 2002 but I know it has actually been several years longer. Today's threads remind me of something my then 16 year old son said several years ago. Cyberfighting is for pussies.

[oneoff]

Yeah I don’t know why that word is being filtered.

Please go back into a hole until another 15 die in a local community and all in less than a week.

Then please stick to some semblance of the truth thereafter..
Some spokesperson. Filtering complainant my arse.

[oneoff]

Which brings us back to oneoff's original Q:

"Tell me what has changed".

Over 1 1/2 years later, trillions in spending, millions allegedly died, promises, jabs that sorta work but actually backfire, very fluid goalposts...

And some say the critics are the crazy ones?

It's abundantly clear that unvaccinated persons are currently responsible for the current situation.

If there were ideas and plans for getting out of this mess (or better controlling it); one would have hoped those ideas would have been enacted.

But experience should have taught everyone that letting her rip has always spiked business for hospitals. Those health care professionals could be caring for accident victims and attempting to improve all other health conditions.

And I'll bet anyone who gets so sick they struggle to get to a phone to call 911; not even knowing what day it was; do get an ambulance and are saved in a hospital on days of strong oxygen therapy... just might have wished they had done things differently. At least the thought should later cross any mind.

Now that isn't just an anecdotal story. It was told first hand after the subject did figure out what days he had lost; is now able to talk about other business concerns ....and hopefully knows he was on on the verge of seeing the end of a tunnel. I think he was reported to have said his SPO2 was 64%. I personally know anything less than 88% "sucks". 80% and the oxygen had better be close by.
The cost to benefit ratio of getting the available vaccinations makes the vaccination decisions a no brainer.