Ducks get $20 million

[chuckChuck]

Here is a story about DU.

DU gets water from Lake Diefenbaker and send it through a series of lakes / marshes that they manage poorly. Marshes are supposed to help filter the water...

Lake diefenbaker provides 75 percent of this province's population drinking water.

In less than 30 miles through the DU system ....the water is barely drinkable for cattle.

Now they are pulling out but keeping any land they have in that area and leaving a phucking mess behind.

Shit engineering of stop logs and poor management ..


DU is a land aggregator and really doesnt give a shit about ranchers or farmers even with all their paintings in the malls.

But you defend these DU people??????

I don't know anything about the specific project you mention. And I won't rely only on your obviously biased assessment.

Some farmers seem to be opposed to protecting the environment and supporting conservation efforts.
If given the chance some will illegally drain wetlands and flood out their neighbors without a care for what happens down stream or to the lost habitat.

Its ironic to hear some farm organizations tell us how farmers care for the environment and are good stewards of the land. A lot do, but some will bulldoze sensitive ecosystems and clear marginal land that would best be left alone.

Many farmers also belong to the Sask Wildlife Federation and enjoy hunting on land the SWF owns. They do alot of the same thing as DU. But you don't seem concerned about the SWF.

DU and other conservation organizations protect marginal land that has important ecological value.

So are you suggesting we should not set aside marginal and important ecologically sensitive land?

I would rather have DU and the NCC and the SWF protecting marginal land than Andjelic buying it and bulldozing it and charging high rents just so he can make more money than he needs.

But you seem to think what Andjelic does is okay? No doubt Andjelic got his share of tax dollars and subsidies too.

[bucket]

I don't know anything about the specific project you mention. And I won't rely only on your obviously biased assessment.

Some farmers seem to be opposed to protecting the environment and supporting conservation efforts.
If given the chance some will illegally drain wetlands and flood out their neighbors without a care for what happens down stream or to the lost habitat.

Its ironic to hear some farm organizations tell us how farmers care for the environment and are good stewards of the land. A lot do, but some will bulldoze sensitive ecosystems and clear marginal land that would best be left alone.

Many farmers also belong to the Sask Wildlife Federation and enjoy hunting on land the SWF owns. They do alot of the same thing as DU. But you don't seem concerned about the SWF.

DU and other conservation organizations protect marginal land that has important ecological value.

So are you suggesting we should not set aside marginal and important ecologically sensitive land?

I would rather have DU and the NCC and the SWF protecting marginal land than Andjelic buying it and bulldozing it and charging high rents just so he can make more money than he needs.

But you seem to think what Andjelic does is okay? No doubt Andjelic got his share of tax dollars and subsidies too.

There is no bias. I have had the water tested just facts.

And could you point me to where Andjelic received 125 million in federal government funding. I seem to have missed those press releases.

100 million to NCC in 2019 and another 25 million recently to DU.

DISCLAIMER : I have no dealings with ANdjelic. But know he is large land owner. chuck chuck threw him into this conversation.

[bucket]

Some of DU finest drainage of wetlands. And they have the ability to draw water from Lake Diefenbaker to keep this wet.

Pictures say 1000 words. Bias...I think not ...just facts.

I call bullshit on anyone that thinks DU or NCC is anything other than a land agregator. And a government tit sucker.

[Guest]

There’s those damn details and facts again

[chuckChuck]

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Some of DU finest drainage of wetlands. And they have the ability to draw water from Lake Diefenbaker to keep this wet.

Pictures say 1000 words. Bias...I think not ...just facts.

I call bullshit on anyone that thinks DU or NCC is anything other than a land agregator. And a government tit sucker.

So what does a photo of low spot in a drought tell us about the last 10 years of this project? Not much.

Did you test the water on several privately held wetlandsand all the publically owned rivers and lakes in southern Sask? What did you find?

And what are your qualifications to assess water quality and ecological system health?

And Andjellic is not an agregator? LOL

[chuckChuck]

There is no bias. I have had the water tested just facts.

And could you point me to where Andjelic received 125 million in federal government funding. I seem to have missed those press releases.

100 million to NCC in 2019 and another 25 million recently to DU.

DISCLAIMER : I have no dealings with ANdjelic. But know he is large land owner. chuck chuck threw him into this conversation.

You were complaining about land agregators there Bucket. Andjelic isn't one or what? Explain.

So says the wanna be government tit sucker who is begging for a $100 per acre payment to all farmers whether they need it or not!

The irony and hypocrisy is thick this morning! LOL

[bucket]

You were complaining about land agregators there Bucket. Andjelic isn't one or what? Explain.

So says the wanna be government tit sucker who is begging for a $100 per acre payment to all farmers whether they need it or not!

The irony and hypocrisy is thick this morning! LOL

Andjelic, to my knowledge, isn't using government money to buy out ranchers.

And yup I am asking for 100 bucks an acre...but maybe you would rather see the demise of the economy instead. Maybe we should have left every Canadian survive the pandemic on their own as well.

I haven't taken CEBA, I pay my crop insurance, and I try to grow a reasonable crop. Didn't happen for many this year....so your answer is to let farmers suffer...

How does spending billions on secondary industries through PIC and other programs make sense if farmers are not around? I guess it can be all TFW.

[bucket]

So what does a photo of low spot in a drought tell us about the last 10 years of this project? Not much.

Did you test the water on several privately held wetlandsand all the publically owned rivers and lakes in southern Sask? What did you find?

And what are your qualifications to assess water quality and ecological system health?

And Andjellic is not an agregator? LOL

OOPs hit the wrong button , didn't mean to like your comments and I shouldn't be engaging in this but if you google map Thunder Creek ...you might learn something... That isn't a low spot , its a canal built by the PFRA that is supposed to have water in it to transfer water from lake to lake...

From a guy that cut and pastes most of his posts you certainly prove that facts are not something you believe in.

Further , I don't know what generation of farmer you are , but there is a good chance you are farming because of government payments from previous generations.

[Blaithin]

Let’s simplify this argument before you two carry on with it.

Do riparian areas need improved management/buffer zones/understanding utilized within, not just ag, but the entire population?

Yes.

Are DU the best option for this?

Nope.

End of story.

FWIW even ALUS seems to be a better bet at riparian improvement than DU. Shocking as that seems. But it’s not broadly available.

Now, carry on.

[bucket]

Let’s simplify this argument before you two carry on with it.

Do riparian areas need improved management/buffer zones/understanding utilized within, not just ag, but the entire population?

Yes.

Are DU the best option for this?

Nope.

End of story.

FWIW even ALUS seems to be a better bet at riparian improvement than DU. Shocking as that seems. But it’s not broadly available.

Now, carry on.

ALUS is a Weston family initiative ...for whatever reason I can't get on board with those shysters either.