high input farmers

[bucket]

Maybe the thread should be renamed high risk farmers. Now that I know about the forward contracting guys are doing, I feel there is an extra layer of leveraged risk in this business that we dont need.

How many guys were contracting 20BPA at 12 bucks for fall of 2021 because that was a historically high price? And how many now have 110 percent of their crop priced?

[Guest]

The young guys were spraying Moddus/ Manipulator on their barley this year...Well lets just say crop insurance is going to pay that bill....and I am not sure why. Cant even make cattle feed.

Here too
Some of these guys can’t spray enough

[the big wheel]

How many guys were contracting 20BPA at 12 bucks for fall of 2021 because that was a historically high price? And how many now have 110 percent of their crop priced?

If I used your numbers guys would be 150% to 200% contracted in our area
And that’s on the fields that will be harvested some won’t.

[bucket]

Lol I shouldn’t laugh because no one can predict the weather
But thinking of what that would have done to
My barley. Lol

Which begs a question what will be done with some of
These fields so short but produced seed and I
Think many were left too long already to spray
Out to kill germination? Might be a mess
Waiting for next year. Wouldn’t dare harrow
Or till right now anyway.

I was toying with the idea of leaving the poorest fields and protillling them early next spring and using in crop to slow the weeds for a burnoff.

The volunteers will be crazy next year any way you slice it.

To make rows , might just use single stream with Roundup. to reduce the competition.

[jazz]

How many guys were contracting 20BPA at 12 bucks for fall of 2021 because that was a historically high price? And how many now have 110 percent of their crop priced?

I dont know what the contracting numbers are. They seem hidden to this industry, but I do not consider marketing and contracting to be production risk.

We have some large neighbors, I will leave them unnamed, that are into integrated businesses now. That means they farm land, own land, do custom work, rent land, rent out land, buy and sell inputs, finance smaller guys, even buying and selling crop and then they wheal and deal with non traditional lenders and partners that most of us would never consider working with.

These are the kinds of players in this industry now and they have taken on exponential risk.

[FarmJunkie]

These guys grow big crops consistently so more water use leaves less for the next year. IE this year and when u start with less h2o u get less. Over the long haul more bushels but more risk. To each his own.

[bucket]

I dont know what the contracting numbers are. They seem hidden to this industry, but I do not consider marketing and contracting to be production risk.

We have some large neighbors, I will leave them unnamed, that are into integrated businesses now. That means they farm land, own land, do custom work, rent land, rent out land, buy and sell inputs, finance smaller guys, even buying and selling crop and then they wheal and deal with non traditional lenders and partners that most of us would never consider working with.

These are the kinds of players in this industry now and they have taken on exponential risk.

And at the end of the day they too will get a government handout....to keep their investors happy (who probably have more pull with government than the 1000 to 5000 acre farmer.)

[bucket]

Fertilizer ain't a good investment this year !

At least the chemical keeps her clean !

Both are too high priced !

Oh I forgot to mention canola seed !

What a scam !

Not to sure about the chemical...some fields that got sprayed have weeds poking through everyday...while the unsprayed one are obvious , in a week or two you may not be able to tell the difference.

[Old Cowzilla]

Weeds in the sprayer tracts starting to show in some spots. Just love spraying in the dust !!!! My bean field along the hi-way looks the worst ( of course ).

[jamesb]

In my parts timing was / is everything. Normally the early bird gets the worm but in many cases this year the very early seed crop just didn't have enough moisture to make it until some of the late may and early June rains for what they were. Most pro tilled spots didn't come up for lack of moisture. I see land that got just one more shower of a few tenths at a key time looking so much better than land just a couple miles away. I am expecting to see lots of left over nutrients in our fall soil tests, as I don't want to spend any more than necessary with the way fert prices will be next spring. We have taken to soil testing every field every year now for quite a few years and I am always surprised as too the variances in what is left in the fall. On some of our land that we fertilize for 45 bpa canola and it goes half of that this fall, I expect will have lots of left over nitrogen. We were pretty dry last year and those fields that missed rains left lots of unused nutrients.