Barley shortage

[jdg364]

I think Syngentas gonna have to cough up a few bucks for the Moddus experiment

Has anyone heard what Syngenta is planning to do with hurt their product did this summer. I heard they moved a massive amount of product on fd barley and oat acres. I haven’t completed my oat checks but on the four barley checks, moddus lost each time ranging from -2 to -17 bu/ac

[the big wheel]

Just a heads up . . . barley demand appears slowing with movement now being deferred mid-late fall by some buyers.

Estimated 70 to 100 unit trains of corn now booked through to July 2022.

Is barley demand slowing or is it just a fact there isn’t any? Therefore
The booked units of corn? Any feedlot or rancher
I ve talked to would take any kind of barley no matter
Shape size or colour it’s about feeding the animals
What ever you Can get your hands on.
People here have gotten calls from brokers
And ranchers the never dealt with before and rhe
First question is do you have barley?

[errolanderson]

Is barley demand slowing or is it just a fact there isn’t any? Therefore
The booked units of corn? Any feedlot or rancher
I ve talked to would take any kind of barley no matter
Shape size or colour it’s about feeding the animals
What ever you Can get your hands on.
People here have gotten calls from brokers
And ranchers the never dealt with before and rhe
First question is do you have barley?

There isn't enough barley and feedlots can't afford to run a cattle feeding business stressing over whether a grower will sell or not.

Railed corn coming in on CP is cheaper and of course a dependable supply for lots through this crop year. Barley deliveries deferred as overall buyer demand weakening. Corn has replaced. The Cdn barley export market will also be dead.

Personally believe, we are at the highs for feed barley this crop year, right now . . . .

[the big wheel]

Think maybe we’re both right, feedlots
Want steady supply, but will take what
Ever barley they can get hands on.
Some farmers are sitting on barley waiting
For 10 bucks. But this year if they
Don’t get it they will get the
8.50 offered now later. If it were past
Years they may end up with 4 waiting
For 10.

[poorboy]

There are a pile of smaller background units, ranchers, pig barns, etc that can't easily switch to corn like the big feedlots. There will still be lots of demand for the small barley crop that we have.

[errolanderson]

Think maybe we’re both right, feedlots
Want steady supply, but will take what
Ever barley they can get hands on.
Some farmers are sitting on barley waiting
For 10 bucks. But this year if they
Don’t get it they will get the
8.50 offered now later. If it were past
Years they may end up with 4 waiting
For 10.

Why $10? . . . . $8/bu barley isn't good enough? But hey, go for it.

Remember, current domestic barley prices don't make a lick-of-sense feeding cattle. And the export market is stalled. Bargaining demand is shifting . . . .

[quadtrac]

Why $10? . . . . $8/bu barley isn't good enough? But hey, go for it.

Remember, current domestic barley prices don't make a lick-of-sense feeding cattle. And the export market is stalled. Bargaining demand is shifting . . . .

Why $1100 phos?

And so on…..

[bigzee]

Why $1100 phos?

And so on…..

Well said in a few short words.

[the big wheel]

Why $10? . . . . $8/bu barley isn't good enough? But hey, go for it.

Remember, current domestic barley prices don't make a lick-of-sense feeding cattle. And the export market is stalled. Bargaining demand is shifting . . . .

I m not taking about myself but why 10?
Because some have already got 10 it’s a mind thing
And with yields at 20 and 30 you need 15 to
Make it work. That’s why. And no programs to
Help out.

[the big wheel]

With all due respect Errol your sounding
Like many of rhe analysts that are looking at only one
The price side of rhe equation for farmers.
These aren’t high prices with a crap crop.
And the vultures are swirling nutrien fcc banks
Etc etc. There’s a shitstorm coming like rhe province
Hasn’t seen for quite some time.

[LWeber]

I m not taking about myself but why 10?
Because some have already got 10 it’s a mind thing
And with yields at 20 and 30 you need 15 to
Make it work. That’s why. And no programs to
Help out.

Math must be hard ...
So what if 1 MMT of corn is booked into feedlot alley
Barley production is off 4 MMT

No programs to help out...Try explaining that to the check off people that won't question Gov't and did f all when Agri- instability was decimated

[Livewire]

I and many others have sold barley or I should say have given it away for such a ridiculously low price that none of us should feel the least amount of guilt for getting 8 or even 10 now. I’m talking about all that was sold for $1 to $2/bus. I know I could use quite a few sales at $8 to average up

Yes I know it cost less to grow it then but the way costs are increasing maybe in the future we’ll need $6 or $8 to make it feasible.

And for you grain marketing “experts” on here who don’t farm but are full of wisdom about grain prices. I have a question for you. What kinds of jobs did you do to subsidize your income like farmers have had to do to keep operating and providing you with cheap food????