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    American ranchers buying up Canadian hay /government support?

    So American ranchers fresh off of government
    Support payments are buying up Canadian hay
    As far north as meadow lake? They must
    Be getting one hell of a support to
    Even truck it that far never mind
    Buy the hay itself?
    Does anyone know if or what they are
    Getting?

    #2
    American farmers have been given 100 billion in Canadian dollars over the last 5 years alone....well supported..


    Canadian farmers and ranchers are being shit on..

    The cattle industry will be set back a decade with this drought...anyone over the age of 65 with no one to take over is probably going to call it a career...and more than likely a 45 year career.

    There is a massive consolidation coming. The young guys are licking their lips even though they haven't tasted the salt.
    Last edited by bucket; Aug 5, 2021, 08:16.

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      #3
      Got to be disheartening to have no feed and water
      And American semi loads of hay going by down rhe highway
      On our Canadian roads all supported by programs
      That pay you right now not based on Kevin hursh
      And accountants bullshit of forms upon forms and delays
      Only to get a bill for rhe bureacracy and a reporter
      That says its farmers fault and a premier and administer
      that says We can’t support our producers all the while federal
      money 60% is there for the taking!!!!

      It’s embarrassing how dumb!

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        #4
        They are looking in central AB too but not much excess. Years ago a bunch went south, that time the us gov paid the trucking bill so made it possible. $150/bale hay doesnt work so how can you add a $50 plus trucking bill to that?

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          #5
          Originally posted by GDR View Post
          They are looking in central AB too but not much excess. Years ago a bunch went south, that time the us gov paid the trucking bill so made it possible. $150/bale hay doesnt work so how can you add a $50 plus trucking bill to that?
          Supposedly they are also getting a trucking subsidy they are
          Desperate and their government is on the ball and
          Not intentionally bound to these loser programs
          That intentionally don’t work.

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            #6
            Government could have said ....make sure the ranchers have feed ...we will make it right on your insurance...

            Told the ranchers or custom balers to get to work...

            Instead they made it harder for cattle guys and farmers to make a deal..

            They told grain farmers to be businessmen....look at every dollar ...so a 15 bpa crop on 160 acres of durum right now is 35000. No rancher is going to pay 35000 for 80 bales or even 100 bales.

            So at the end of the day government phucked ranchers ....no lube and they added sand.

            See the problem they created.

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              #7
              Originally posted by bucket View Post
              Government could have said ....make sure the ranchers have feed ...we will make it right on your insurance...

              Told the ranchers or custom balers to get to work...

              Instead they made it harder for cattle guys and farmers to make a deal..

              They told grain farmers to be businessmen....look at every dollar ...so a 15 bpa crop on 160 acres of durum right now is 35000. No rancher is going to pay 35000 for 80 bales or even 100 bales.

              So at the end of the day government phucked ranchers ....no lube and they added sand.

              See the problem they created.
              Exactly created more of a resentment between grain
              And cattlemen when the opposite is needed.
              This is not a pinch the penny moment this is
              Get fuukn real and save an industry it’s estimated
              40% of rhe cow herd will be gone if nothing is
              Done to help. And I ll repeat it until your sick of me
              Which is long past I know!!! Lol but why wouldn’t
              You get the fuukn 60% for free! It’s brainless it’s
              Poor business skills it’s a kick in the balls not to!

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                #8
                And to add even more love to the situation
                It’s the Americans that are buying these
                Cows are a 30% discount. So they are stocking their
                Herds taking our feed to feed them while our
                Government sits in those ass and acts like
                Screwed businessmen when they are long term
                Shifting the entire cattle herd to the USA!!!

                At least charge a fuukn road tax at the border
                They’re going to wreck our roads hauling
                Our cattle and hay our industry away and we ll
                have to pay to fix the damage!! Lol
                Last edited by the big wheel; Aug 5, 2021, 08:58.

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                  #9
                  Sask crop insurance offers a rainfall insurance on your
                  Pasture and hayland.I took out a lot more this year.we got some timely rains so got a hay crop but if not my coverage would have went a long way to feed my cows even at the high grain and hay costs.Rainfall is all calculated and either you get a cheque or you do not.with discounts it is very reasonable.

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                    #10
                    Sadly canada and BoBoo is no where to be found. Canada zero support

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                      #11
                      So why in the world would you not want to become American?

                      At least the Government and the people seem to see value in Agriculture and want to see it succeed.
                      This is really becoming a dead beat country!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by newguy View Post
                        Sask crop insurance offers a rainfall insurance on your
                        Pasture and hayland.I took out a lot more this year.we got some timely rains so got a hay crop but if not my coverage would have went a long way to feed my cows even at the high grain and hay costs.Rainfall is all calculated and either you get a cheque or you do not.with discounts it is very reasonable.
                        AFSC does lack of moisture as well for silage and pasture. Really kicks you down when it rains on the weather station 30 miles away but not at home. I equate it to going to Vegas.

                        My pasture growth was about half for May/June and they said my two weather stations got 72% and 90% of normal so no payment. Now if I get a dump of rain at the end of August it’ll “average” out and no payment as well. It’s a junk program in my eyes compared to production insurance. Why can’t I have production insurance on my biggest and riskiest crop…….. grass?

                        *end of rant*

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