Alberta/Canada gov $200/ head livestock assistance.

[Blaithin]

Pfft.

Who's going to be applicable for it?

It's probably only going to be accessible to a small portion of people/herds but it's going to drive the price up for everyone.

I don't mind not getting funding, I have a tiny herd, but by offering funding things are going to become inaccessible for me and I'm sure many others.

The hay lottery was a better idea than just giving money. Governments should work towards bringing in feed from other areas. Ontario, Eastern States.... giving us money won't give us more feed. The feed is short, money won't magically create it. Ship in bales, ship in grain. Feed prices are just going to go up and up. Heard of a barley field started, they did a couple rounds, hopper was still empty. Tossing money at farmers with that issue is not going to get grain to buy.

Yeah it's great for those that can get it but it's still just a feeble patch. The total amount will look good to outsiders but the beef people aren't really going to be helped all that much.

[bucket]

The feed is in grain farmers fields...they should have said " if you allow your field to be baled or for cattle feed of some sort we will call it zero , use your guarantee and pay you a fair market price for the crop"

Instead they set the low yield to low , doubling didn't help...and just got ranchers and farmers hating each other again..

They wanted farming to be big business...they are using small mind thinking to get through this.

If you want agriculture to succeed through this ,, you are talking billions to keep moving forward...like 10 billion.

My math is right.

FFS Alberta gives 136 million for all the ranchers in Alberta and not long ago gave 133 million for the Chin Reservoir expansion...correlate the numbers....ranchers got short changed.

Its just insulting....no one says thank you after being kicked in the balls...

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I agree, more money chasing the same finite feed supply isn't going to change anything except transfer more money to the feed sellers.

[TOM4CWB]

I agree, more money chasing the same finite feed supply isn't going to change anything except transfer more money to the feed sellers.

DDG’s, Corn, there is plenty of feed in North America.
With a little imagination.

Think outside the box, there are many cattle folks who have at least one year feed in store… after next year with out normal rain there would be much different issues to over come.

Have a safe harvest, we are very blessed to be in Canada!!!

Cheers

[Blaithin]

DDG’s, Corn

Those need to be brought in. Unless you think Permolex can supply all ranchers as well as the feedlots that have been buying their product for years.

(That's without considering that DDG's are bound to go up in price. Feed grain prices going up are going to take all others with them. They already have.) Feed grain prices are what's wonking out almost everything right now. Hay went from being the expensive option to being one of the cheaper options.

Plus to accurately feed DDG's you need some sort of TMR on the go which means some farmers who don't use mixers aren't going to be able to use those. Unless they put their $200 a head to changing their entire feeding system. And what are DDG freight abilities? I've seen them come out of Red Deer on a dump tri. Don't think many of them would be fun in a hopper trailer, or a rail car. They aren't lovely products for storing in bins by any means and you can't really stockpile them for a later day. They are a convenient option for those nearby plants that produce them, less so the farther out you get.

I'm lucky that in my area, even if yields aren't great, the material is there for some straw. As long as I've got straw I can fiddle around with other options. Some places don't even have much straw. You need some sort of roughage, even if you're feeding DDG's and corn, so they'd still be fighting over that.

$200 a head isn't going to go far if the farmers are responsible for freight to get the products from the other side of NA here. Which is why it would be better used if that's what the gov did. Don't give money, bring in the feed. I would happily pay most prices if I didn't have to pay freight as well.

[Stormin]

DDG’s, Corn, there is plenty of feed in North America.
With a little imagination.

Think outside the box, there are many cattle folks who have at least one year feed in store… after next year with out normal rain there would be much different issues to over come.

Have a safe harvest, we are very blessed to be in Canada!!!

Cheers

I remember when farmers (like my dad) used to cut the ditches for extra feed in dry years. Now with the vast expansive perfectly contoured ditches on roadways I only see contractors out there mowing the grass that would get animals through the winter...what a waste. but that is becoming the mentality of people, if it doesn't come neatly packaged then it can't be done.

Think outside the box, use imagination.

[bucket]

I remember when farmers (like my dad) used to cut the ditches for extra feed in dry years. Now with the vast expansive perfectly contoured ditches on roadways I only see contractors out there mowing the grass that would get animals through the winter...what a waste. but that is becoming the mentality of people, if it doesn't come neatly packaged then it can't be done.

Think outside the box, use imagination.

Use to cut highway ditches until they supposedly fixed the highway ...too rough to bother with.


Plus the semi truck tires in the ditch because of hauling further ...it isn't worth it.

Neighbour ate a tire in the haybine...first hundred feet of cutting ...said phuck it.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Use to cut highway ditches until they supposedly fixed the highway ...too rough to bother with.


Plus the semi truck tires in the ditch because of hauling further ...it isn't worth it.

Neighbour ate a tire in the haybine...first hundred feet of cutting ...said phuck it.

On our recent trip we saw plenty of haying going on in highway ditches. East central AB, and west central Sask.

In 2002, our county allowed farmers to pasture the road ditches, I don't recall what we were supposed to do for traffic control. Not enough traffic to count here then.

[Old Cowzilla]

94 bucks a head from Alberta 136 million with an additional 104 from federal government by the end of the year.

Election is in the way of the federal commitment.

:
Guess we are not voting in Manitoba

[Horse]

I wonder who gets this,Iwill bet money the welfare cowboys take most of it,they have the biggest herds as they are being paid to keep cows.
Talked to the manager of community pasture just west of here ,he said cows are going home by sept 1 ,no grass. That will put a lot of people in real dire straights having to come up with 2 extra months feed,thats about 12,000 cows.
I guess I am like the grain farmer as I rent out grass and will get 0 and at least 1 month less grass so income goes down.