Alberta/Canada gov $200/ head livestock assistance.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I agree, more money chasing the same finite feed supply isn't going to change anything except transfer more money to the feed sellers.

[TOM4CWB]

I agree, more money chasing the same finite feed supply isn't going to change anything except transfer more money to the feed sellers.

DDG’s, Corn, there is plenty of feed in North America.
With a little imagination.

Think outside the box, there are many cattle folks who have at least one year feed in store… after next year with out normal rain there would be much different issues to over come.

Have a safe harvest, we are very blessed to be in Canada!!!

Cheers

[Blaithin]

DDG’s, Corn

Those need to be brought in. Unless you think Permolex can supply all ranchers as well as the feedlots that have been buying their product for years.

(That's without considering that DDG's are bound to go up in price. Feed grain prices going up are going to take all others with them. They already have.) Feed grain prices are what's wonking out almost everything right now. Hay went from being the expensive option to being one of the cheaper options.

Plus to accurately feed DDG's you need some sort of TMR on the go which means some farmers who don't use mixers aren't going to be able to use those. Unless they put their $200 a head to changing their entire feeding system. And what are DDG freight abilities? I've seen them come out of Red Deer on a dump tri. Don't think many of them would be fun in a hopper trailer, or a rail car. They aren't lovely products for storing in bins by any means and you can't really stockpile them for a later day. They are a convenient option for those nearby plants that produce them, less so the farther out you get.

I'm lucky that in my area, even if yields aren't great, the material is there for some straw. As long as I've got straw I can fiddle around with other options. Some places don't even have much straw. You need some sort of roughage, even if you're feeding DDG's and corn, so they'd still be fighting over that.

$200 a head isn't going to go far if the farmers are responsible for freight to get the products from the other side of NA here. Which is why it would be better used if that's what the gov did. Don't give money, bring in the feed. I would happily pay most prices if I didn't have to pay freight as well.

[Stormin]

DDG’s, Corn, there is plenty of feed in North America.
With a little imagination.

Think outside the box, there are many cattle folks who have at least one year feed in store… after next year with out normal rain there would be much different issues to over come.

Have a safe harvest, we are very blessed to be in Canada!!!

Cheers

I remember when farmers (like my dad) used to cut the ditches for extra feed in dry years. Now with the vast expansive perfectly contoured ditches on roadways I only see contractors out there mowing the grass that would get animals through the winter...what a waste. but that is becoming the mentality of people, if it doesn't come neatly packaged then it can't be done.

Think outside the box, use imagination.

[bucket]

I remember when farmers (like my dad) used to cut the ditches for extra feed in dry years. Now with the vast expansive perfectly contoured ditches on roadways I only see contractors out there mowing the grass that would get animals through the winter...what a waste. but that is becoming the mentality of people, if it doesn't come neatly packaged then it can't be done.

Think outside the box, use imagination.

Use to cut highway ditches until they supposedly fixed the highway ...too rough to bother with.


Plus the semi truck tires in the ditch because of hauling further ...it isn't worth it.

Neighbour ate a tire in the haybine...first hundred feet of cutting ...said phuck it.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Use to cut highway ditches until they supposedly fixed the highway ...too rough to bother with.


Plus the semi truck tires in the ditch because of hauling further ...it isn't worth it.

Neighbour ate a tire in the haybine...first hundred feet of cutting ...said phuck it.

On our recent trip we saw plenty of haying going on in highway ditches. East central AB, and west central Sask.

In 2002, our county allowed farmers to pasture the road ditches, I don't recall what we were supposed to do for traffic control. Not enough traffic to count here then.

[Old Cowzilla]

94 bucks a head from Alberta 136 million with an additional 104 from federal government by the end of the year.

Election is in the way of the federal commitment.

:
Guess we are not voting in Manitoba

[Horse]

I wonder who gets this,Iwill bet money the welfare cowboys take most of it,they have the biggest herds as they are being paid to keep cows.
Talked to the manager of community pasture just west of here ,he said cows are going home by sept 1 ,no grass. That will put a lot of people in real dire straights having to come up with 2 extra months feed,thats about 12,000 cows.
I guess I am like the grain farmer as I rent out grass and will get 0 and at least 1 month less grass so income goes down.

[littledoggie]

Yup, we're cutting pipelines and an old neglected field that was disced twice and left. Rough going, but lots of feed there, although some of it is built up trash - probably kept the soil moist though. Will most likely be the best yield of all the fields. Lots of bales moving off the fields here in hopes of getting another cut. I don't know............. :|

[GDR]

I guess I am like the grain farmer as I rent out grass and will get 0 and at least 1 month less grass so income goes down.

I only rent one small pasture and it is per head per day and reasonable and have had to move cows out, I will try to make something work for his rent. Most have went to a flat rate per pasture here for the summer. Sky high rents, landlords are trying to get guys to pull their cows as there is nothing left and renters have nowhere to put them and have paid for "the season". Its a mess either way.

[Horse]

I only rent one small pasture and it is per head per day and reasonable and have had to move cows out, I will try to make something work for his rent. Most have went to a flat rate per pasture here for the summer. Sky high rents, landlords are trying to get guys to pull their cows as there is nothing left and renters have nowhere to put them and have paid for "the season". Its a mess either way.

How much is the rate there ,I charge $1 per day and I look after fences,and rotate cows around some are 1.10 to 1.25/day.
Community pasture is at $25/month I think.

[GDR]

How much is the rate there ,I charge $1 per day and I look after fences,and rotate cows around some are 1.10 to 1.25/day.
Community pasture is at $25/month I think.

I'm only paying $1 also but I've heard rates as high as $2.30. Like I said lots are a flat rate that work back to the higher end of that range on a good year, so will be huge this year on a daily basis.