Alberta/Canada gov $200/ head livestock assistance.

[the big wheel]

Alberta and Canadian government will fund
$200 per animal livestock. I don’t think
This is a loan. Looks like someone understands
How to take advantage of the 60/40 thing. Maybe!

[bucket]

Its still a giant kick in the balls...

Anyone that says thank you for that announcement is a bit touched.

For perspective....Dofasco and ALgoma each got 400 million in the last two weeks.

Why not a CEBA style loan for 5 years and a 25 percent grant at the end.

Did you notice Kenney more worried about a federal election than hay going south? If he cared the trucks would be stopped at the border.

[walterm]

Alberta and Canadian government will fund
$200 per animal livestock. I don’t think
This is a loan. Looks like someone understands
How to take advantage of the 60/40 thing. Maybe!

Heard it was tied to Fed approval or somehow, is this the Fed payment announced yesterday or over and above?

If over and above what is total available?

[bucket]

The CCA asked for 400 bucks a head.

[bucket]

Heard it was tied to Fed approval or somehow, is this the Fed payment announced yesterday or over and above?

If over and above what is total available?

94 bucks a head from Alberta 136 million with an additional 104 from federal government by the end of the year.

Election is in the way of the federal commitment.

[bucket]

If approved, the total amount would be $340 million split 60-40 between the federal and provincial governments. Alberta’s contribution is $136 million. Under a new AgriRecovery program, this will provide an immediate payment of $94 per head to help cover feed and water access costs for breeding females across the province.

Taking a receipt-based approach, a second payment of $106 per head will be allocated later in the year, for a total of $200, the province says. “This will help level the playing field against a U.S. feed subsidy and maintain our livestock herds in Alberta.”

Receipt based approach???????ranchers have no money to buy additional feed for the extra months of feeding required.

The feed will be in the states by then....

Just another kick in the balls.

[woodland]

Sounds like $94 per “breeding female” soonish and $106 later to cover feed, fencing, water etc……

It definitely takes the edge off. Still got hungry yearlings but it could always be worse and we’ll still be able to roll the dice again.

Hmmmm ………. I wonder what hay prices will do now?

Good luck y’all 🍀

I haven’t been able to walk across this ditch since 2003. Usually water up to the grass and beyond. Checking fence on a pasture that has been partially under water most years but will be cow chow this year.

Fun times…..

[Herc]

Nice to see some support to agriculture, but what are the grain farmers getting.....

[bucket]

Nice to see some support to agriculture, but what are the grain farmers getting.....

SFA...

because grain prices are high and no one in government can do math...a 15bpa wheat crop at 10 bucks is 150 an acre. A 30 bpa crop at 7 bucks is 210...Still seems a grain farmer is short a few bucks no different than a cattle guy for high priced feed and selling cows into a depressed market.

I feel for the cattle guy...they are taking a shit kicking .

Grain farmers are not far behind.

No vision for farmers by government in this country. They told us to be businessmen , they wanted farming to be big business ...they have small minded solutions.

[Sodbuster]

Nice to see the cow guys and gals getting some government support. I feel that this drought will hit them the worst but even with money there is still only so much feed out there and we will see cow numbers decline.

[Blaithin]

Pfft.

Who's going to be applicable for it?

It's probably only going to be accessible to a small portion of people/herds but it's going to drive the price up for everyone.

I don't mind not getting funding, I have a tiny herd, but by offering funding things are going to become inaccessible for me and I'm sure many others.

The hay lottery was a better idea than just giving money. Governments should work towards bringing in feed from other areas. Ontario, Eastern States.... giving us money won't give us more feed. The feed is short, money won't magically create it. Ship in bales, ship in grain. Feed prices are just going to go up and up. Heard of a barley field started, they did a couple rounds, hopper was still empty. Tossing money at farmers with that issue is not going to get grain to buy.

Yeah it's great for those that can get it but it's still just a feeble patch. The total amount will look good to outsiders but the beef people aren't really going to be helped all that much.

[bucket]

The feed is in grain farmers fields...they should have said " if you allow your field to be baled or for cattle feed of some sort we will call it zero , use your guarantee and pay you a fair market price for the crop"

Instead they set the low yield to low , doubling didn't help...and just got ranchers and farmers hating each other again..

They wanted farming to be big business...they are using small mind thinking to get through this.

If you want agriculture to succeed through this ,, you are talking billions to keep moving forward...like 10 billion.

My math is right.

FFS Alberta gives 136 million for all the ranchers in Alberta and not long ago gave 133 million for the Chin Reservoir expansion...correlate the numbers....ranchers got short changed.

Its just insulting....no one says thank you after being kicked in the balls...

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I agree, more money chasing the same finite feed supply isn't going to change anything except transfer more money to the feed sellers.

[TOM4CWB]

I agree, more money chasing the same finite feed supply isn't going to change anything except transfer more money to the feed sellers.

DDG’s, Corn, there is plenty of feed in North America.
With a little imagination.

Think outside the box, there are many cattle folks who have at least one year feed in store… after next year with out normal rain there would be much different issues to over come.

Have a safe harvest, we are very blessed to be in Canada!!!

Cheers

[Blaithin]

DDG’s, Corn

Those need to be brought in. Unless you think Permolex can supply all ranchers as well as the feedlots that have been buying their product for years.

(That's without considering that DDG's are bound to go up in price. Feed grain prices going up are going to take all others with them. They already have.) Feed grain prices are what's wonking out almost everything right now. Hay went from being the expensive option to being one of the cheaper options.

Plus to accurately feed DDG's you need some sort of TMR on the go which means some farmers who don't use mixers aren't going to be able to use those. Unless they put their $200 a head to changing their entire feeding system. And what are DDG freight abilities? I've seen them come out of Red Deer on a dump tri. Don't think many of them would be fun in a hopper trailer, or a rail car. They aren't lovely products for storing in bins by any means and you can't really stockpile them for a later day. They are a convenient option for those nearby plants that produce them, less so the farther out you get.

I'm lucky that in my area, even if yields aren't great, the material is there for some straw. As long as I've got straw I can fiddle around with other options. Some places don't even have much straw. You need some sort of roughage, even if you're feeding DDG's and corn, so they'd still be fighting over that.

$200 a head isn't going to go far if the farmers are responsible for freight to get the products from the other side of NA here. Which is why it would be better used if that's what the gov did. Don't give money, bring in the feed. I would happily pay most prices if I didn't have to pay freight as well.