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    Barley and wheat crops poor, combine vs bales?

    I have barley and wheat fields eligible for crop ins write off. Contacted local cattle guys and they have enough acres of bad crop to bale already and are not interested.

    I don’t have cattle, could swath it and hire the baling done, but is there a market for the bales? Crop is thin and short, so the swathing and baling costs will be respectively higher per bale than normal. Going to be grain bales more so than greenfeed.

    Have most cattle guys got enough feed for the year already? If not start running ads on kijiji and social media that you are looking for poor barley and wheat crops to bale. Ideally if you can swath and bale it yourself, it will appeal to more to the grain farmer.

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    Originally posted by poorboy View Post
    I have barley and wheat fields eligible for crop ins write off. Contacted local cattle guys and they have enough acres of bad crop to bale already and are not interested.

    I don’t have cattle, could swath it and hire the baling done, but is there a market for the bales? Crop is thin and short, so the swathing and baling costs will be respectively higher per bale than normal. Going to be grain bales more so than greenfeed.

    Have most cattle guys got enough feed for the year already? If not start running ads on kijiji and social media that you are looking for poor barley and wheat crops to bale. Ideally if you can swath and bale it yourself, it will appeal to more to the grain farmer.
    Would have been better greener but I still dont think youd have trouble selling it this year. Awn type might be a factor also. Where are you at? The AB program will just translate to higher feed prices. Even if you dont get rich might help to remove the trash and reduce the volunteers for next year.

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      #3
      I am south of Drumheller. Actually thought I had a 30 bushel barley crop. Surprised at how many heads never made kernels. Neighbor says combine yield monitor under 5 bus/ac and I thought his crops were better than mine.

      Now considering other options. Gov’t program should help cover some of the freight to bring feed from the grain areas into the cattle areas.

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        #4
        We baled the barley ourselves. Sold no problem. If crop insurance is writing it off under the revised low yield numbers, expect close to a bale an acre.

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          #5
          Something needs to be done with the barley, I’d swath it just to make sure it doesn’t go down, I’m sure someone will show up with a baler and a flat deck, how many acres

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            #6
            I know of people out by Hanna hunting for feed and go east past Youngstown gets bad. South of Drum you’re probably even close enough for the feedlots who need roughage. They don’t mind trucking.

            Put a Kijiji ad up just to gauge interest and book some people in. You’ll probably get lots of messages.

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              #7
              What is the going rate for barley bales now?

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                #8
                poorboy, if that was me and I would probably just nip the heads and leave as much standing stubble as I could to catch snow and then some OM back in for seeding.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jazz View Post
                  poorboy, if that was me and I would probably just nip the heads and leave as much standing stubble as I could to catch snow and then some OM back in for seeding.
                  Even light Barley is needed for livestock feed rations as hotter grain need to be balanced with fibre.

                  If a decent volume becomes available… then viable rations are created… discounted prices can be reduced significantly when barley is in short supply.

                  Cheers

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
                    Even light Barley is needed for livestock feed rations as hotter grain need to be balanced with fibre.

                    If a decent volume becomes available… then viable rations are created… discounted prices can be reduced significantly when barley is in short supply.

                    Cheers
                    Question is can one even afford the fuel , depreciation, wear and tear and parts on trying to harvest less than 15 bus / ac barley ?
                    Not many land roll all their barley , so cutting the ground becomes very costly on headers and combines .
                    Combines and headers cost a lot to run nowadays. Repairs are astronomical now as well .
                    Not fun either way

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                      #11
                      Jazz, for a lot of the barley out west, it’s either just cut the heads or leave it. Large amount of acres aren’t mor than 6 or 8 inches tall.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                        Question is can one even afford the fuel , depreciation, wear and tear and parts on trying to harvest less than 15 bus / ac barley ?
                        Not many land roll all their barley , so cutting the ground becomes very costly on headers and combines .
                        Combines and headers cost a lot to run nowadays. Repairs are astronomical now as well .
                        Not fun either way
                        Anything I can get without wrecking a combine is what I am doing this year...If I go over it..thats ok because what I am missing won't pay the deductible anyway.

                        I don't like wheat on wheat , or durum on durum but that may well be what happens to deal with the volunteers next year...2022 Seeding plans are getting easier every day.

                        Preseed may well be an in crop herbicide next year...this year the glyphosate was a bust ...

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by RD414 View Post
                          Jazz, for a lot of the barley out west, it’s either just cut the heads or leave it. Large amount of acres aren’t mor than 6 or 8 inches tall.
                          IMO we have to have one eye out into 2022 now. That field will be a table top after its combined. And if we get the kind of winter they are predicting (cold, little precip) well right back in the same boat again.

                          How much winter snowfall and spring rain fall would we need to bring in above average crop next year and possibly weather another hot July? In some places, that number has to be outside our typical annual precip now after this yr. I dont like gambling on just in time rainfall.

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                            #14
                            All fields here and in most areas out west here will be table top . There is no way around that this year unless you leave strips in fields

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                              All fields here and in most areas out west here will be table top . There is no way around that this year unless you leave strips in fields
                              Leaving strips might be a good idea.👍

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