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    #11
    There is no money to be made for the private military contractors if there is peace in Afganistan. Biden will let things go to shit then all his buddies can get rich off taxpayers saving the afgan people. Just like the globalist Bush govt did.

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      #12
      For the life of me I cant understand the strategic importance of the middle east and why the US is always in there doing something stupid.

      If I were president I would frac the hell out of the continental US, drill up ANWAR and the gulf coast and take all the product out of the oil sands and leave china to get their oil from that snake pit.

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        #13
        Originally posted by jazz View Post
        For the life of me I cant understand the strategic importance of the middle east and why the US is always in there doing something stupid.

        If I were president I would frac the hell out of the continental US, drill up ANWAR and the gulf coast and take all the product out of the oil sands and leave china to get their oil from that snake pit.
        That is exactly what is happening, in fits and starts. And that is exactly why Alberta will become part of the US sooner or later.
        The actions speak much louder than words.
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        Oil and gas production grew through the Obama years in spite of the public rhetoric about climate change, it will grow throughout the Biden years in spite of the public nonsense about climate emergencies.

        And China and Iran etc will get what they wished for. It will be fun to watch.

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          #14
          Best we can do in the free world is accustom our consumption and preferences to what is sustainably and cost effectively produced here and in friendly nations. The pendulum I hope eventually shifts this way. Globalization which benefits only one side of the trade is not sustainable long term. Much as we bemoan renewables and environmental crap there is something to be said of conservation of our resources so we are not beholden to despots and commies.

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            #15
            Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
            Best we can do in the free world is accustom our consumption and preferences to what is sustainably and cost effectively produced here and in friendly nations. The pendulum I hope eventually shifts this way. Globalization which benefits only one side of the trade is not sustainable long term. Much as we bemoan renewables and environmental crap there is something to be said of conservation of our resources so we are not beholden to despots and commies.
            Absolutely.
            I would be a supporter of renewables if for no other reason than it will liberate the rest of the world from being beholden to terrorists, dictators, zealots, barbarians, and the massive wealth transfer to them that has resulted.
            Unfortunately the goal seems to be quite the opposite of that, crippling our ability to supply ourselves, while enriching the worst of the worst.

            Which all has nothing to do with Afghanistan, with no resources except poppies.

            Really feel for the poor citizens, who countless times throughout history have had to pick allegiances, only to have the rug pulled out from under them with unthinkable consequences.

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              #16
              The irony of the energy revolution. Afghanistan is a large source of rare earth metals which China wants. The Taliban will sell out the country to China and screw their citizens.

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                #17
                Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                The irony of the energy revolution. Afghanistan is a large source of rare earth metals which China wants. The Taliban will sell out the country to China and screw their citizens.
                Thank goodness our government would never do that.

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                  #18
                  Does anyone else remember the TV images from Saigon in 75? I sure do. Only now no one watches TV anymore.

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                    #19
                    That clip from a week ago where Biden says ‘there won’t be helicopters evacuating people from embassy rooftops’ isn’t playing well right now.

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                      #20
                      What a lovely graphic of #UNsustainablity providing the backdrop for all this -

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