Bhp

[Robertbarlage]

Sounds like great news but when they start producing do they get first rights to train? Guess we will see! Need a government that will twin the lines! Just do it!

[fjlip]

7.5 BILLION might double track?

[chuckChuck]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/investing/investment-ideas/article-bhps-petroleum-exit-shows-oil-and-gas-may-follow-coals-path-to-toxic/

BHP’s petroleum exit shows oil and gas may follow coal’s path to toxic status:
Clyde Russell
LAUNCESTON, Australia
Reuters

The market hasn’t exactly cheered BHP Group’s proposed exit from its oil and gas business, with shares of both the mining giant and the acquirer, Woodside Petroleum, tumbling in the wake of deal.

A point of concern for investors is that BHP may have sold the assets too cheaply, and that getting only Woodside shares as payment is less than desirable.

While there is likely some element of truth in this, investors may be missing the wider point of the deal, which will create a $29 billion oil and gas company after all.

It’s likely that this deal signals that the era of paying premiums to acquire oil and gas assets is over. From now on, companies seeking to offload these type of assets will be forced to accept ever-diminishing prices.

BHP’s Sydney-listed shares dropped 8.4% in the two days after the deal was announced on Aug. 17 to close at A$47.70 ($34.44) on Wednesday. Woodside slid 4.2% in the same time period to end at A$20.29.

The pullback continued in early trade on Thursday, with BHP again down, as much as 6.2%, and Woodside dropping as much as 2.6%.

To be sure, there were other reasons for BHP’s stock to retreat. For one, there’s the ongoing slump in the spot price of iron ore, the commodity that generates the most revenue for the world’s biggest mining company.

It’s also possible that some investors may have sought to take profits after BHP on Tuesday reported its strongest earnings since 2012.

But if some BHP stockholders are feeling hard done by, perhaps they should reflect on another asset the Melbourne-based miner is trying to sell.

BHP has had its Mount Arthur thermal coal mine in Australia’s New South Wales state up for sale for more than a year. It still hasn’t found a suitable buyer.

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At this stage it’s like that BHP might even pay somebody to take the mine, the biggest in New South Wales, off its hands, given the company slashed the value of the asset on Wednesday from a value of about A$550 million to a liability of A$275 million ($198 million), the Sydney Morning Herald reported.

Just seven months ago the Mount Arthur mine was valued at more than A$2 billion by BHP. The massive writedown in value has come despite the price of Australian thermal coal rising to the highest in 13 years.

The Newcastle Weekly Index, the benchmark thermal coal price, has more than tripled since its 2020 low of $46.37 a tonne, reaching $168.71 in the week to Aug. 13, according to assessments by commodity price reporting agency Argus.

While there are costs associated with rehabilitation that any buyer would have to bear, the fact that BHP can’t seem to find a buyer for Mount Arthur in the best market for thermal coal since 2008 is telling.

Coal assets have largely become toxic, with South32 , the company spun out of BHP, ending up paying about $250 million to offload its thermal coal mines in South Africa.
OIL TO FOLLOW COAL?

While it’s not a fait accompli that oil and gas assets will travel down the same path as coal, the risks are increasing that they will.

A renewed focus on mitigating climate change and rising concern about the environment among investors will make it difficult for oil and gas companies to attract shareholders and capital, even if the prices and demand for crude oil, natural gas and liquefied natural gas (LNG) remain strong.

BHP may have exited oil and gas at just the right time. Its investment in the Jansen potash project in Canada shows that the company is more focused on commodities that will be needed in the future.

However, BHP may still battle to win over climate-sensitive investors given its status as the world’s biggest exporter of coking coal, the polluting fuel used to make steel.

While steel is essential to many products vital to transitioning the world from fossil fuels to clean energy, the process of making it is carbon-intensive - and likely to remain that way for some time to come.

Whether BHP will be able to mount an argument that coking coal is good for the energy transition, or at least a necessary evil, remains to be seen. However, it will likely have to commit to offsetting the emissions from the burning of its coal at some future point.

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Question, does anyone actually read these 1500 word posts that chuckles puts on here?

[Guest]

Question, does anyone actually read these 1500 word posts that chuckles puts on here?

Not f u c k in g likely

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Question, does anyone actually read these 1500 word posts that chuckles puts on here?

And does chuckles bother reading the thread before posting irrelevant cut and pastes?
The thread is about a potash mine, and he's ranting about the end of oil and gas?

[Guest]

Apparently not

[WiltonRanch]

Great to see that mine finally getting going again. With the perennial strife in Eastern Europe, potash production in western Canada is a better bet.

[chuckChuck]

The thread is titled BHP. I didn't know you weren't allowed to post news articles about BHP in a BHP thread. LOL

Its up to you whether you read the article or not. Seems to be a lot of grumbling about not reading the article for some reason.

If you read the full article or not, the gist of the article is BHPs move away from oil and coal and a focus on other commodities like potash in Saskatchewan.

"BHP may have exited oil and gas at just the right time. Its investment in the Jansen potash project in Canada shows that the company is more focused on commodities that will be needed in the future."

[fjlip]

Get your HORSE in gear or walk, no oil or gas allowed for you. Solar and wind, you are CUT OFF the grid!

Enjoy your GREEN SHIT.

[chuckChuck]

Get your HORSE in gear or walk, no oil or gas allowed for you. Solar and wind, you are CUT OFF the grid!

Enjoy your GREEN SHIT.

Flipper you are like the grumply old muppet hecklers up in the theatre box on The Muppets that provide a laugh or two.

Solar system is working very well. Powered the air conditioner all summer during the heatwave and sent lots of excess production into the grid for other air conditioners as Sask Power had some very high usage days during the heat wave.

Looks like we will generate more electricity than our total farm consumption again for another year! Its been a mostly cloudless summer with endless sun.

[BreadWinner]

Chuck can you please post some pictures and details of your solar generating system? I am interested in putting one up on our farm.

[chuckChuck]

It would be best to talk to several companies that install them. I am out of date on pricing and whats available in terms of options and incentive programs.

Ground mounts work nice if you want to keep the snow off them in the winter. Adjustable so you can change the angle for summer and winter is probably a good idea.

Roof mount is okay too. The snow comes off south facing panels on a sunny winter day.

If you get a new all electric F150 Lightning in 2022 you can have a solar powered battery backup to run your house for awhile during an outage.

Battery backups in EVs can provide lots of usable storage for multipurpose uses. Plus you get lower cost fuel/energy for driving around.

[bucket]

Is BHP going the cartel that makes using potash almost unaffordable in Saskatchewan.

Been told , all costs in it takes 150 bucks to put potash in a rail car.

Saskatchewan users don't have it put in a rail car...Its trucked to the local input dealer...doesn't anyone wonder why the asian farmers can buy saskatchewan potash cheaper than Canadian farmers???

[quadtrac]

Question, does anyone actually read these 1500 word posts that chuckles puts on here?

ZERO % chance