The end of the turd

[flea beetle]

I provided my source, and where he took it from. It is up to you to thwart it. If you want to keep your head in the sand, that is up to you.

The 1.4 billion to womens and girls health in other countries and the 400 million to other countries to fight covid is easily searched out on the internet. Once again, if you want to keep your head in the sand that is on you.

[Hamloc]

Hamloc, thanks very much for posting this, it really supports the point I was making that the Trudeau government is not spending more than previous governments as most Canadians believe and which flea beetle insinuated but which he cannot support with any facts. For those of you who want to read the article Hamloc referred to here is the link: https://thephilanthropist.ca/2020/01/canadas-international-development-sector-hoping-for-increased-aid-spending-in-2020-after-years-of-declining-contributions/

I will highlight a few statements I found very interesting. Note this was written in 2020 so it is up to date and reflects current JT government foreign aid spending:
-"Canadians routinely and dramatically overestimate the generosity of a government that is perceived as being deeply altruistic, when, in fact, it is increasingly miserly."
-"A half-century after former Prime Minister Lester Pearson called on the world’s industrialized nations to spend 0.7% of Gross Domestic Income (GDI) on foreign aid, this country sits at a near 50-year low in spending as a percentage of GDI, 0.28%." (note this is below the Harper government 0.30 average for his years in office and which topped at 0.31% in 2012)
-"But during the first Trudeau term, aid spending did not approach 2012 levels, let alone levels seen in the 1980s or ‘90s."
-"Former Conservative Prime Minister Brian Mulroney recently called today’s level of foreign aid “anemic and embarrassing.” But as long as Canadians overestimate our aid contributions, there is little incentive for the government to actually spend more."
-"Other industrialized nations throw shade on Canada. The United Kingdom enshrined the 0.7% contribution in legislation and maintains that level today despite internal pressures to spend less. Germany is only slightly behind at 0.63%. Norway tops the field, contributing 0.94% of GDI to foreign aid."

To base an argument on political promises made in an election period rather than the actual actions of a government once elected is hilarious. I am sure Trudeau would have loved to increase aid, but has not been able to do so. In 2012 the Conservatives promised that Growing Forward 2 would help farmers. Hamloc, do you think the changes to AgriStability made then are better for farmers? How about the new seed regulations, or the birth of Seed Synergy which really began with the adoption of the Senate recommendations adopted by the Conservatives in 2012.

Actually Dml you apparently can’t comprehend what was written. Justin Trudeau’s statement was made after he was elected not during the election. But what I don’t get is Stephen Harper’s government provided more foreign aid than Justin Trudeau’s and yet your defending Justin Trudeau’s well established record of over promising and under delivering. Was Flea Beetle wrong, yes in this case he was but as the article states most Canadians overestimate how much is spent on foreign aid. But there is no doubt that no single Prime Minister has added anywhere near as much to our national debt as Justin Trudeau! And even though he has greatly increased government spending you state he has not been able to increase foreign aid. Why do you suppose that is? Maybe because it won’t buy him more votes!

[flea beetle]

Actually Dml you apparently can’t comprehend what was written. Justin Trudeau’s statement was made after he was elected not during the election. But what I don’t get is Stephen Harper’s government provided more foreign aid than Justin Trudeau’s and yet your defending Justin Trudeau’s well established record of over promising and under delivering. Was Flea Beetle wrong, yes in this case he was but as the article states most Canadians overestimate how much is spent on foreign aid. But there is no doubt that no single Prime Minister has added anywhere near as much to our national debt as Justin Trudeau! And even though he has greatly increased government spending you state he has not been able to increase foreign aid. Why do you suppose that is? Maybe because it won’t buy him more votes!

I respectfully decline that I am wrong in saying that Justin Trudeau gave more than Harper to other countries for nothing.

[Guest]

Oh, and Hamloc, you better be careful when using sources like philanthropist.ca and referencing arguments which go against unsupported right wing criticisms of Trudeau or soon guys like jwab and flea beetle will begin seeing you as a left winger and caseih will be trying to insult you and telling you to F off too.

haven't told you to F off yet , would like to
more misinformation fro you as usual

[dmlfarmer]

haven't told you to F off yet , would like to
more misinformation fro you as usual

Your post on this thread number 114 and i quote:
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Fu c k dML
There’s those damn details again
Poor buggers always a dollar short and a day behind

As you say there are those damn details again... you should have deleted this post you made before your comment today

[jazz]

Trudeau cost Canada literally trillions so arguing about foreign aid is redundant at this stage. Its always too much when you have people suffering here at home.

He is a hair away from sinking this country for good. I am sure dml will try to rebut. Add the debt to the lost investment and cancelled projects if you want to be shocked.

[burnt]

Some wise words from Kevin Harlan for the PM

"Pull up your pants, take off the bra and BE A MAN!"

(Click "Watch on YouTube")

[WiltonRanch]

Dang O’Toole might have momentum on his side. Ontario polls have cpc and liberals in a statistical dead heat. CPC actually has a platform and Liberals are just looking to win a majority. Maybe just maybe the electorate is seeing through the liberals bs

[dmlfarmer]

Trudeau cost Canada literally trillions so arguing about foreign aid is redundant at this stage. Its always too much when you have people suffering here at home.

He is a hair away from sinking this country for good. I am sure dml will try to rebut. Add the debt to the lost investment and cancelled projects if you want to be shocked.

My only point in this thread has been, contrary to the belief of many, the foreign aid offered by the current liberal government is lower than governments over the last 50 years. I have provided lots of data to support my position.

More interesting is O'toole has publicly stated on a number of occasions that a Conservative government led by him will not cut foreign aid spending:
Mar 16, 2021 "I want to maintain and modernize and make more accountable our development funding," he O'Toole said during a virtual event with Cooperation Canada, an umbrella organization for international development agencies. "There will not be cuts. There will be a renewed focus on outcomes."
Page 112 of the Conservative Platform on International development ".... We will reform,
not reduce, international development assistance - maintaining current aid levels while increasing the
effectiveness of Canadian aid and expanding engagement with the Canadian development sector, the
private sector, and diaspora communities...."

So for those who disagree with the amount of foreign aid the Liberals currently provide you are going to be disappointed voting Conservative because they promise to maintain current aid levels and no cuts!

[Taiga]

Momentum so far is looking promising for turfing Trudeau, let’s cross our fingers. I will accept anyone over this current batch of incompetents.

[sumdumguy]

Not much from the pollsters except that Ontario is neck and neck.

[jazz]

Not much from the pollsters except that Ontario is neck and neck.

Another minority will be as good as a win because that will be an extremely weak govt and wont last 6 months. The knives will be out.

[Taiga]

Agree, another minority will be viewed as a fail.

[WiltonRanch]

Another minority will be as good as a win because that will be an extremely weak govt and wont last 6 months. The knives will be out.

Much as it pains me to say I think this is how it has to happen and I think that is how it will go. Sad though because poor guy didn’t get his UN seat. Imagine though some sort of appointment there is already in the works if he gets punted.

[Guest]

Your post on this thread number 114 and i quote:
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As you say there are those damn details again... you should have deleted this post you made before your comment today

sorry you took it that way ,missed a comma
should read
fu ck dml , theres those damn details again
but even your version does not tell you to f off ?
am i missing something
do you keep a logbook ?