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Originally posted by flea beetle View PostWe were told 70% vaxed to get to herd immunity. Now they moved the goal posts yet again.
We are headed into a 4th lockdown, but don't worry, I have a feeling most ER nurses will either go on strike or quit entirely after the hospitals are flooded this time. They are sick of anti-vaxxers/anti-maskers working against them and then showing up in the ICU.
Then society can experience the true health care burden when ER's close due to lack of staff. We had a local hospital close its ER for over a year due to lack of doctors about 10 years ago. People died on the extended 1.5 hour ambulance ride because of it. Now imagine on a much bigger scale.
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No mention of "chance" before. The narrative was 70% to get to herd immunity.
I'm sick of the vaxed saying that the unvaxed are putting them in jeopardy. You have the vax. You should be fine, no?
I should be dead by now according to the vax nazis. But yet here I am, living the dream! My dad on the other hand, has heart issues from getting the vax...go figure! But the vax nazis say it is just a coincidence that he developed clotting in his heart not long after getting the vax. Funny how that just shows up with no other changes in his life.
The fact still remains that they had to change the definition of a pandemic in order to lock down society. None of this would have even been possible had they not changed that definition. How can you guys not even bat an eye at the bullshit that is going on?
-Big Farma applying for patents on vaccines for covid before it was even known to exist? Really? That doesn't sound any alarm bells?
-Bill gates saying we need to prepare better for a pandemic not even what....a year before a "pandemic" arrives? Not fishy at all? And then stating that if we do a good job on vaccines, we can LOWER the earths population. DON'T VACCINES SAVE LIVES, NOT END THEM? Again...does this just not wreak of foul play?
-Continual goal post moves as soon as we get close to the previous goal? Either they don't know what they are doing, or there is a bigger plan going on behind the scenes.
I will go back to DML's numbers about New Zealand. 3519 cases and 26 deaths in nearly 2 years. And everybody is sounding the alarm that Covid is coming and going to most definitely kill you. Yet the flu, which has been around for ages, infects nearly 2,430,000 people, and kills around 1000 people in New Zealand every 2 years and nobody gives it a second thought. Nobody tries to coerce others to get the flu shot, or take freedoms away. Never heard anybody say, well you can't go to a sporting event because you don't have the flu vaccine. And yet the numbers are there plain as day. Flu is more deadly and more infectious.Last edited by flea beetle; Sep 6, 2021, 00:23.
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Originally posted by flea beetle View PostI will ask the question again...so the charter of rights should be scrapped?
To say either way. Some people I know abuse it
The way I see it the person or group with the best
lawyer gets the charter to work for them.
There’s too many Whiney people now days always
worried About themselves selfish. Me me me.
And they use rhe charter as an excuse. Yet some
Truly are wronged and the charter likely legitimately
Helps them.
So the football team says you can’t go in their stadium
Unless vaxed. You go there unvaxed. They want to
Boot you out. You say you have your right to attend
The game. They say they have the right to boot you out.
Whose in the right? Just a small example if everyone
Has rights all the time we ll be in a deadlock of
Never ending court cases.
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My medical records are private and confidential. They don't have the right to ask in the first place, nor can they discriminate based on them. In other words...none of their damn business.
And again as previously stated, had the definition of a pandemic not been changed, they for sure would not be able to ask whether anybody has been vaxed or not.Last edited by flea beetle; Sep 5, 2021, 23:34.
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Originally posted by flea beetle View PostMy medical records are private and confidential. They don't have the right to ask in the first place, nor can they discriminate based on them. In other words...none of their damn business.
And again as previously stated, had the definition of a pandemic not been changed, they for sure would not be able to ask whether anybody has been vaxed or not.
Dealing with a contagious disease that harms
Others you damm right they have rhe right. And in
Fact you have obligation to do your part.
Otherwise stay home.
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Oh contraire. By the old definition of a pandemic, they wouldn't have been able to declare a pandemic in the first place. And wouldn't have been able to lock down society. They changed the wording to include cases in order to declare a pandemic. Had they not changed the wording, the vaxes wouldn't have been allowed in the first place. Life would be as it was, but for a minor change to a definition. And the sports team wouldn't be able to discriminate based on a vax.
It would be up to the individual to decide if going to that game was too risky for themselves or not. Not to decide if it is too risky for someone else to go to said game.Last edited by flea beetle; Sep 5, 2021, 23:45.
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Originally posted by the big wheel View PostIf you want to be part of society and we re
Dealing with a contagious disease that harms
Others you damm right they have rhe right. And in
Fact you have obligation to do your part.
Otherwise stay home.
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Originally posted by the big wheel View PostActually I don’t know enough about the charter
To say either way. Some people I know abuse it
The way I see it the person or group with the best
lawyer gets the charter to work for them.
There’s too many Whiney people now days always
worried About themselves selfish. Me me me.
And they use rhe charter as an excuse. Yet some
Truly are wronged and the charter likely legitimately
Helps them.
So the football team says you can’t go in their stadium
Unless vaxed. You go there unvaxed. They want to
Boot you out. You say you have your right to attend
The game. They say they have the right to boot you out.
Whose in the right? Just a small example if everyone
Has rights all the time we ll be in a deadlock of
Never ending court cases.
Is it not whiney and selfish to coerce others to inject something into their body, that they do not want in the first place, so that you can feel safe?Last edited by flea beetle; Sep 6, 2021, 00:41.
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[QUOTE=flea beetle;508540]If never ending court cases is what it takes to maintain my rights and freedoms, ...
Just to "confuse the issue with the facts"...
In Canada we have a publicly funded health care system... different than private system perhaps... but
Even health care insurance providers can decline coverage for specified reasons...
The "peace order and good government" clause of the Canadian Constitution can over ride almost anything... the courts keep ruling... in case you missed this, which is why public health legislation over rides almost all other laws in Canada.
An observation... not saying you must take the vax, just that as the ICU and hospitals fill up... public health officials have little choice but to decrease the health risks and patient load on our health care system. Hence new restrictions to decrease patient load on hospitals...
Have a safe and healthy harvest!
Cheers
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