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    Oklahoma hospitals deluged by ivermectin overdoses, doctor says

    Oklahoma hospitals deluged by ivermectin overdoses, doctor says

    Jason McElyea says people overdosing on anti-parasitic drug that some people believe without evidence can cure or treat Covid

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/04/oklahoma-doctor-ivermectin-covid-coronavirus

    An Oklahoma doctor has said overdoses of the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin, which many believe without evidence can prevent or cure Covid-19, are helping cause delays and problems for rural hospitals and ambulance services struggling to cope with the resurgent pandemic.
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    Ivermectin is used to kill internal and external parasites in livestock animals and, in smaller doses, in humans.

    “There’s a reason you have to have a doctor to get a prescription for this stuff, because it can be dangerous,” Dr Jason McElyea, a family doctor in Sallisaw, told KFOR, an Oklahoma TV station.

    “The [emergency rooms] are so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting to facilities where they can get definitive care and be treated.
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    “Ambulances are stuck at the hospital waiting for a bed to open so they can take the patient in and they don’t have any, that’s it. If there’s no ambulance to take the call, there’s no ambulance to come to the call.”

    McElyea told the Tulsa World a colleague was forced to send one severely ill Covid patient to a hospital in South Dakota, three states away to the north.

    “They had sat in a small hospital needing to be in an [intensive care unit] for several days, and that was the closest ICU that was available,” he said.

    Oklahoma is among states struggling to cope with a surge in hospitalisations and deaths caused by the Delta virus variant. According to Johns Hopkins University, in the past week Oklahoma has recorded more than 18,400 cases and 189 deaths. The same source puts the death toll in Oklahoma over 8,000, out of more than 647,000 across the US.

    The vast majority of US hospitalisations and deaths are among unvaccinated people. Amid opposition to vaccines and public health mandates stoked by Republican politicians, conservative media and disinformation on social media, many have turned to ivermectin.

    This week, the influential podcaster Joe Rogan, who has been dismissive of vaccines, announced he had tested positive for Covid and was taking ivermectin.

    In Arkansas, the drug was given to inmates at a jail. Louisiana and Washington issued alerts after an increase in calls to poison control centers. Some animal feed supply stores have run out of the drug because of people buying it in its veterinary form.

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) cited a case of a man who drank an injectable form of ivermectin intended for cattle. He suffered hallucinations, confusion, tremors and other side effects and was hospitalised for nine days.

    McElyea told KFOR: “Growing up in a small town, rural area, we’ve all accidentally been exposed to ivermectin at some time. So it’s something people are familiar with. Because of those accidental sticks, when trying to inoculate cattle, they’re less afraid of it.”

    Authorities have tried to debunk claims that animal-strength ivermectin can fight Covid-19.

    “Taking large doses of this drug is dangerous and can cause serious harm,” the US Food and Drug Administration warned, adding that the drug can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea, seizures, delirium and death.

    The American Medical Association appealed for an “immediate end” to the drug’s use, outside studies seeking to determine if the drug has any use against Covid-19, with federal and state regulators tracking side effects and hospital admissions.

    A panel from the National Institutes of Health found “insufficient evidence” for or against using the drug for Covid-19.

    In Oklahoma, McElyea said: “Some people taking inappropriate doses have actually put themselves in worse conditions than if they’d caught Covid. The scariest one that I’ve heard of and seen is people coming in with vision loss.

    “You have to ask yourself, ‘If I take this medicine, what am I going to do if something bad happens?’ What’s your next step, what’s your back-up plan? If you’re going to take a medicine that could affect your health, do it with a doctor on board.

    “It’s not just something you look on the internet for and decide if it’s the right dose.”

    Northeastern Health System in Sequoyah said in a statement posted on Facebook later on Saturday that Dr McElyea was not an employee but was affiliated with a medical staffing group that provided coverage for its emergency room.

    NHS Sequoyah had not treated any patients due to complications related to taking ivermectin, including overdose, the statement said.

    This article was amended on 5 September 2021 to include a statement from NHS Sequoyah addressing Dr McElyea’s comments that was released after publication.

    #2
    Chuck you should be ashamed of yourself for spreading misinformation. Total 🗑!

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      #3
      Wonder if that Dr was deregistered for spewing mistruths? I don’t suppose👎How can’t people see the hypocrisy?

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        #4
        Poison Control Centers Are Fielding A Surge Of Ivermectin Overdose Calls

        https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/04/1034217306/ivermectin-overdose-exposure-cases-poison-control-centers

        Poison control centers are seeing a dramatic surge in calls from people who are self-medicating with ivermectin, an anti-parasite drug for animals that some falsely claim treats COVID-19.

        According to the National Poison Data System (NPDS), which collects information from the nation's 55 poison control centers, there was a 245% jump in reported exposure cases from July to August — from 133 to 459.


        Meanwhile, emergency rooms across the country are treating more patients who have taken the drug, after being persuaded by false and misleading information spread on the internet, by talk show hosts and by political leaders. Most patients are overdosing on a version of the drug that is formulated to treat parasites in cows and horses.
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        The troubling trend has been on the rise since the start of 2021 — despite warnings from state health officials and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention against taking ivermectin. The NPDS says 1,143 ivermectin exposure cases were reported between Jan. 1 and Aug. 31. That marks an increase of 163% over the same period last year.

        Ivermectin was discovered in 1975 and is approved for use in humans to treat infections caused by some parasitic worms, head lice and skin conditions such as rosacea. When taken in appropriate, prescribed doses, it can be highly effective and is included in the World Health Organization's list of essential medicines.
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        But after some clinical trials at the start of the coronavirus pandemic, the Food and Drug Administration says the "currently available data do not show ivermectin is effective against COVID-19."
        Exposure cases are spiking across the country

        In Kansas, the Department of Health and Environment is urging residents to disregard false information about ivermectin's effectiveness against COVID-19.

        "Kansans should avoid taking medications that are intended for animals and should only take ivermectin as prescribed by their physician," Lee Norman, secretary of the department, said earlier this week.

        In Mississippi, which has one of the lowest rates of vaccination against the coronavirus, the state Department of Health issued an alert about the surge in calls to poison control in August. The department said that at least 70% of recent calls to the state poison control center were related to people who ingested a version of the drug meant for livestock.
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        Minnesota's Poison Control System is dealing with the same problem. According to the department, only one ivermectin exposure case was reported in July, but in August, the figure jumped to nine. Kentucky has seen similar increases. Thirteen misuse calls have been reported this year, Ashley Webb, director of the Kentucky Poison Control Center, told the Louisville Courier-Journal.

        "Of the calls, 75% were from people who bought ivermectin from a feed store or farm supply store and treated themselves with the animal product," Webb said. The other 25% were people who had a prescription, she added.

        "You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it," the FDA said in a renewed warning late last month.
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        Those with a prescription from a health care provider should only fill it "through a legitimate source such as a pharmacy, and take it exactly as prescribed," the agency instructs. It also cautioned that large doses of the drug are "dangerous and can cause serious harm" and said that doses of ivermectin produced for animals could contain ingredients harmful to humans.

        The agency added: "Even the levels of ivermectin for approved human uses can interact with other medications, like blood-thinners. You can also overdose on ivermectin, which can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, hypotension (low blood pressure), allergic reactions (itching and hives), dizziness, ataxia (problems with balance), seizures, coma and even death."

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          #5
          Merck Statement on Ivermectin use During the COVID-19 Pandemic
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          https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/

          KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:

          No scientific basis for a potential the****utic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
          No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
          A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.

          We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information.

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            #6
            Scientists and health agencies warn against ivermectin for COVID-19, saying it lacks concrete evidence

            https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/scientists-and-health-agencies-warn-against-ivermectin-for-covid-19-saying-it-lacks-concrete-evidence-1.5574145

            TORONTO -- A drug used for livestock deworming has attracted a different herd — humans who believe it could be a cure for COVID-19, despite no concrete proof and warnings from health agencies.

            Ivermectin has been around for years, used to fight parasitic infestations most commonly in large animals such as horses or cows.

            But now it’s being touted by some as a way to prevent or cure COVID-19, in a wave of misinformation that has led to confusion among veterinary retailers and attempts to correct the record by health experts.


            Although there is a version of ivermectin cleared for use humans, an oral pill that can be prescribed to treat parasitic infections such as head lice, scabies or “river blindness” (onchocerciasis), it has not been proven to fight COVID-19 or approved by Health Canada or the U.S. Food and Drug Association (FDA) for this purpose.

            Still, in the U.S., ivermectin use has skyrocketed, with 88,000 prescriptions filled per week in mid-August.

            And those who can’t get a prescription are taking the agricultural route, where a dosage meant for cows and horses — animals that weigh significantly more than humans and have completely different physiologies — creates a real possibility of poisoning.

            Glenn Miller, with Anola Feed and Farm Supply told CTV News that they’ve had an increase in people inquiring after the veterinary version of the drug.

            “People are asking and it’s clear they’re not horse people,” Miller said.

            Some retailers are refusing to keep ivermectin on their shelves to prevent this.

            “We are an animal feed store,” said Lance Olson, of Lone Star Tack and Feed. “We don’t cater to medications for humans. That’s not something we can even touch.”

            Reports of humans consuming medication designed for animals and requiring medical attention afterwards has forced health agencies to post warnings.

            Health Canada posted an alert on Tuesday warning the public that consuming animal health products could be seriously dangerous.

            “Canadians should never consume health products intended for animals because of the potential serious health dangers posed by them,” the alert stated.

            “The veterinary version of ivermectin, especially at high doses, can be dangerous for humans and may cause serious health problems such as vomiting, diarrhea, low blood pressure, allergic reactions, dizziness, seizures, coma and even death.”

            The U.S. FDA posted a tweet on Aug. 21 urging people to stop taking ivermectin intended for animals.

            “You are not a horse,” the tweet read. “You are not a cow.”

            According to the National Poison Data System, which aggregates data from poison control centres in the U.S., there was a 245 per cent increase in reported exposure cases to ivermectin from July to August.

            A manufacturer of ivermectin, Merck, even came forward back in February to say that they have found no scientific basis for using their product to fight COVID-19.

            Ivermectin is prescribed to humans with applicable parasitic conditions based on factors including weight, medical history and how they respond to treatment, making it dangerous to take a dosage level that hasn’t been prescribed.

            Health Canada added that not only are they warning against consuming the veterinary version of ivermectin — they advise against taking the human version of ivermectin in an attempt to fight COVID-19 as well.

            “There is no evidence that ivermectin in either formulation is safe or effective when used for those purposes,” the statement said. “The human version of ivermectin is authorized for sale in Canada only for the treatment of parasitic worm infections in people.”

            Health Canada added that it is monitoring all potential the****utic treatments for COVID-19, and have not received any drug submissions or clinical trial applications to test ivermectin for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19.

            “For drugs that have the potential to be helpful in treating COVID-19, Health Canada encourages drug manufacturers to conduct clinical trials. This would provide an opportunity for the healthcare community to collect information on the effectiveness of the treatment and its associated risks.”
            SEPARATING THE MYTH FROM THE MEDICINE

            Earlier in the pandemic, there was a surge of misinformation surrounding hydroxychloroquine, which was also touted as a miracle treatment for COVID-19, leading to poisonings and at least one death in those who consumed a version of the drug used in cleaning aquariums.

            History seems to be repeating itself with ivermectin, the latest unproven cure to take the spotlight.

            Ivermectin has been studied as a potential treatment for COVID-19 — but the results have been inconclusive or contradictory in many studies, and some studies that were seen as a positive indicator for ivermectin’s use have later been criticized for inconsistencies.

            A handful of studies have found that ivermectin gives promising results to fight COVID-19 in a lab setting. Yet while this is an important first step in any drug testing, it doesn’t mean that the same results are achievable in humans.

            “The concentrations used in vitro may not be achievable in the****utic doses," Ruben Hernandez, pharmaceutical chemist at San Borja Arriaran hospital in Santiago, Chile told AFP in January.

            In a March 2021 study that looked at 400 patients, researchers found that a five-day course of ivermectin in adults with mild COVID-19 did not improve the resolution of their symptoms.

            A comprehensive analysis published in the Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews in late July 2021, which looked at 14 different studies on ivermectin and COVID-19, found that the “reliable evidence available does not support the use of ivermectin for treatment or prevention of COVID‐19.”

            The review added that the existing completed studies on the topic are small, “and few are considered high quality.”

            Some studies the review looked at, while seemingly showing positive results, were designed in a way that provided only “low-certainty” evidence. For instance, in one of the studies the review looked at, the only outcome for analysis was mortality, but no one in the study died — including those who were receiving no treatment as opposed to receiving ivermectin.

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              #7
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              Poison Control Centers Are Fielding A Surge Of Ivermectin Overdose Calls

              https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/09/04/1034217306/ivermectin-overdose-exposure-cases-poison-control-centers

              Poison control centers are seeing a dramatic surge in calls from people who are self-medicating with ivermectin, an anti-parasite drug for animals that some falsely claim treats COVID-19.

              According to the National Poison Data System (NPDS), which collects information from the nation's 55 poison control centers, there was a 245% jump in reported exposure cases from July to August — from 133 to 459.


              Meanwhile, emergency rooms across the country are treating more patients who have taken the drug, after being persuaded by false and misleading information spread on the internet, by talk show hosts and by political leaders. Most patients are overdosing on a version of the drug that is formulated to treat parasites in cows and horses.
              Joe Rogan Says He Has COVID-19 And Has Taken The Drug Ivermectin
              Arts & Life
              Joe Rogan Says He Has COVID-19 And Has Taken The Drug Ivermectin

              The troubling trend has been on the rise since the start of 2021 — despite warnings from state health officials and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention against taking ivermectin. The NPDS says 1,143 ivermectin exposure cases were reported between Jan. 1 and Aug. 31. That marks an increase of 163% over the same period last year.

              Ivermectin was discovered in 1975 and is approved for use in humans to treat infections caused by some parasitic worms, head lice and skin conditions such as rosacea. When taken in appropriate, prescribed doses, it can be highly effective and is included in the World Health Organization's list of essential medicines.
              Article continues after sponsor message

              But after some clinical trials at the start of the coronavirus pandemic, the Food and Drug Administration says the "currently available data do not show ivermectin is effective against COVID-19."
              Exposure cases are spiking across the country

              In Kansas, the Department of Health and Environment is urging residents to disregard false information about ivermectin's effectiveness against COVID-19.

              "Kansans should avoid taking medications that are intended for animals and should only take ivermectin as prescribed by their physician," Lee Norman, secretary of the department, said earlier this week.

              In Mississippi, which has one of the lowest rates of vaccination against the coronavirus, the state Department of Health issued an alert about the surge in calls to poison control in August. The department said that at least 70% of recent calls to the state poison control center were related to people who ingested a version of the drug meant for livestock.
              National
              Inmates Weren't Told They Were Given An Anti-Parasite Drug Instead Of COVID-19 Meds

              Minnesota's Poison Control System is dealing with the same problem. According to the department, only one ivermectin exposure case was reported in July, but in August, the figure jumped to nine. Kentucky has seen similar increases. Thirteen misuse calls have been reported this year, Ashley Webb, director of the Kentucky Poison Control Center, told the Louisville Courier-Journal.

              "Of the calls, 75% were from people who bought ivermectin from a feed store or farm supply store and treated themselves with the animal product," Webb said. The other 25% were people who had a prescription, she added.

              "You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it," the FDA said in a renewed warning late last month.
              Mississippi Is Pleading With People To Stop Using A Livestock Drug To Treat COVID-19
              Health
              Mississippi Is Pleading With People To Stop Using A Livestock Drug To Treat COVID-19

              Those with a prescription from a health care provider should only fill it "through a legitimate source such as a pharmacy, and take it exactly as prescribed," the agency instructs. It also cautioned that large doses of the drug are "dangerous and can cause serious harm" and said that doses of ivermectin produced for animals could contain ingredients harmful to humans.

              The agency added: "Even the levels of ivermectin for approved human uses can interact with other medications, like blood-thinners. You can also overdose on ivermectin, which can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, hypotension (low blood pressure), allergic reactions (itching and hives), dizziness, ataxia (problems with balance), seizures, coma and even death."
              So is this “evidence” as real as your first post to this thread?

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                #8
                Why would the purveyors of misinformation like bt and bl let facts get in the way?

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                  #9
                  So how much Ivermectin are you taking each day Flea?

                  Denial is the last stage before recovery can begin.

                  So you don't believe Merck's statement either?

                  Read it again:

                  No scientific basis for a potential the****utic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
                  No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
                  A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.

                  We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information.
                  Last edited by chuckChuck; Sep 5, 2021, 09:45.

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                    #10
                    The covidiots believe the vaccines, which have been administered to billions of people and have received a huge amount of scientific scrutiny and safety and efficacy assessments are unsafe!

                    But Ivermectin, a treatment for parasites that has shown no efficacy against covids in humans is safe?

                    This is irrational stupidity at its peak.

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                      #11
                      Thank you chuck, for making a post relevant to agriculture. These constant repetitive covid posts were getting kind of old. Glad to see you making a public service announcement to the livestock farmers on Agriville.
                      So now that you have pointed out to the livestock producers on here that ivomec may be in short supply due to this increased demand, and that regulations may make it even harder to come by, how do you suggest we make use of this information?

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                        #12
                        I never said anything about ivermectin. I asked if your info was correct since it was proven that your first post was a hoax

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                          #13
                          You are not a dog.

                          Seriously. Stop taking aspirin, y'all.

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                            #14
                            There is one anecdotal side effect of horse Ivermectin I heard. Some guy said his member grew to 18". Guy said his wife was too scared to go near him. 😬 Joking
                            Last edited by biglentil; Sep 5, 2021, 13:08.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                              Wonder if that Dr was deregistered for spewing mistruths? I don’t suppose👎How can’t people see the hypocrisy?
                              Well fu ck
                              Look at how the easily poor old chuck2 was hoodwinked
                              And a Mensa man no less
                              Common sense isn’t that common anymore I guess?

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