Conservative gov and agriculture?

[the big wheel]

Next to nothing... Which is a step in the right direction. Anytime gov't starts meddling in an industry it seems like even with good intentions they manage to phuck it all up.

Here's something that I'm spitballing this morning.

Give guys the option with gov't crop insurance to insure based on $'s per acre, rather than historical yields, and prices pulled out of thin air. Much like private insurance options. In this case, anyone with a farming history that has say a minimum of 3 years of Financials to pass over could get insurance tailored to them. Let them pick whatever number they want to insure for, and let your actuarialist's and bureaucrats figure out appropriate rates to charge. Perhaps even put gov't funding on a sliding scale, so those that choose to insure for less as a percentage of what the area typically grosses would get a larger share gov't subsidized than those who choose a higher level?

Or for that matter, let guys insure for 110, 120, or even 150% of area average and continue to base upon yields? You could have the gov't backstop the first 40% of that coverage, so if you chose 60% coverage, you'd only be paying 1/3 of the supposed bill, and if 80%, you'd be 1/2, and if you chose 120, it'd be 2/3 of the bill. Perhaps also go with a modified olympic average, that takes the lowest 10-20% of the years out of the equation, alongside the highest 10-20%?

I honestly think crop insurance could do a far better job of securing farm families livelihoods. In the same sense, the less risk that you take out of the game, the more it will lever up land prices and rents... So would we be any better off in the long run?

Yes absolutely some interesting ideas better crop insurance
with a market price closer to reality. We need to be insuring
What we can grow not what we can’t. Get rid of everything else

[Blaithin]

Never a better time to vote liberal MPs in here
They need us conservatives won’t do fk all minority majority
Opposition even worse. Just sit on the ass and collect salary.
Embarrassing not one has mentioned what’s going on
In their ridings.

My riding is a given. The world will end before it doesn’t go blue.

I can’t think of any way that that has specifically helped the area. It’s still losing its population and who is here are really feeling the pinch this year. But that won’t change anything. Some may not vote at all but they’ll never go in to vote and not pick blue. Part of our issue is the sparse population of course.

Still, I have no faith that once they get to Ottawa the MPs ever even mention occurrences in their riding. Doesn’t matter what their party is.

“Hi I’m Damien from Alberta. Most of my constituents are reliant on agriculture but the only thing I’m known for is my fight against the banning of conversion therapy.”

[the big wheel]

My riding is a given. The world will end before it doesn’t go blue.

I can’t think of any way that that has specifically helped the area. It’s still losing its population and who is here are really feeling the pinch this year. But that won’t change anything. Some may not vote at all but they’ll never go in to vote and not pick blue. Part of our issue is the sparse population of course.

Still, I have no faith that once they get to Ottawa the MPs ever even mention occurrences in their riding. Doesn’t matter what their party is.

“Hi I’m Damien from Alberta. Most of my constituents are reliant on agriculture but the only thing I’m known for is my fight against the banning of conversion therapy.”

Lmao! Sounds like my MP only don’t even hear that much
The only remote chance we have of making our MPs work for us
Is to remove them if they don’t do anything. What foo
You have to lose if they aren’t doing anything.
We’re stuck in this cycle of expecting better but doing nothing
To get better.

[Sheepwheat]

We don’t matter any more. There are too few of us vote wise. I don’t know what else to say even…

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I still can't understand how the drought is the taxpayers problem and responsibility?
We already have government subsidized crop insurance etc which is not available to any other business that I am aware of.
There are multiple private insurance options available.
We have a century or more of weather records at our disposal to evaluate the risk of an event such as we just endured, there's no excuse to not be somewhat prepared financially and agronomically for events which have a known probability.
This wasn't a black swan, it wasn't forced on us by government decree, it was forecast in advance by some forecasters.
Just like some well-known Quebec companies, if it's not a viable Business without government help, then no amount of government help is going to make it sustainable in the long run without fundamental changes to the business itself. Only served to make them more dependent, and less competitive and resilient.

[Blaithin]

The drought is hardly the only issue ag communities are dealing with.

For that matter agriculture isn’t the only area of issue rural communities are dealing with.

But the fact the drought is the one thing people will be able to think of just shows how non vocal MPs seem to have been about their constituencies.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Now don't all agree with me at once...

[Blaithin]

It could be argued that if the tax payers feel they have the right to an input on how farmers farm (ie a carbon tax, which chemicals to use, etc) then they need to contribute to the industry in some way.

So far they haven’t proven it by willingness to pay more for commodities grown in their desired methods.

Also the trend to wanting cheaper commodities at the store requiring gov subsidies in order to produce that cheap food is taxpayers crutching up the industry irregardless of drought or flood or hail.

[Guest]

BW
It’s real simple
Look how much that thieven ***** took from the west with a minority govt?
FFS , And you wanna give him a majority ??
Nobody gives a flyin fu ck about us low life’s , get over it
But at least the cons don’t have their arms in my pocket
That low life prick should be charged with treason over this fk n carbon tax
Yesterday it cost me more for carbon tax in the dryer than the god damn fuel to run it
Let that sink in
And for what ?
Absolute lunacy

[Sheepwheat]

BW
It’s real simple
Look how much that thieven ***** took from the west with a minority govt?
FFS , And you wanna give him a majority ??
Nobody gives a flyin fu ck about us low life’s , get over it
But at least the cons don’t have their arms in my pocket
That low life prick should be charged with treason over this fk n carbon tax
Yesterday it cost me more for carbon tax in the dryer than the god damn fuel to run it
Let that sink in
And for what ?
Absolute lunacy

Well put.

[TOM4CWB]

[QUOTE=Blaithin;508630]My riding is a given. The world will end before it doesn’t go blue.

“Hi I’m Damien from Alberta. Most of my constituents are reliant on agriculture but the only thing I’m known for is my fight against the banning of conversion therapy.”

Blaithin,

MP Damien is a farmer just like me working with his family. Your crusted cynical view does no justice to the multiple difficult problems that MP Damien's constituency office deal with daily, carefully helping folks who need further information on working through the Ottawa maze of multiple sidetrack difficulties.

There is unlikely a better informed MP on Agricultural matters than MP Damien. Taking the conversion therapy issue out of context, after MP's carefully tried to correct Liberal intentional mistakes... shows how badly mainstream media distorts what good work, and common sense revisions, are ignored; to sell news while smearing our good hard working MP's in Ottawa.

In working with MP Damien for nearly 4 years, there is few days he does not work 'farmer hours' just like the rest of us here in the farm community in Alberta.

Let me know if there is anything we can help you with... will be honoured to be of assistance.

Cheers

[bucket]

If thats the case Tom why wasn't he the agriculture critic instead of the halfwit ROOD?