Conservative gov and agriculture?

[Blaithin]

He may be a farmer and he may be knowledgeable in ag, I didn’t say he wasn’t. I said there is no evidence he’s taken his voice to Ottawa on the behalf of the constituency.

There’s some other examples of a farming family in federal and provincial politics that aren’t far from me. The fact that they’re farmers hasn’t made them any more likeable as politicians.

[the big wheel]

First of all I m talking about a level field
With the countries that support their farmers

A program would gladly pay my share into if there
Was a better guarantee

My farm and every other farm generates
More tax revenue through all the industries we buy from
And sell to bu creating our product than we ever get
Subsidized that is a fact!!!

Do I have to list all the subsidies every other industry gets???

The current crop insurance works for people
That don’t need it. I m subsidizing farms that have
Big coverage because of weather by paying a
Too large premium for shiit all coverage at half rhe market
Price yet paying current market expenses

And the conservatives are duds too stupid to figure
Out how to get back equalization and maybe they don’t want to
Because they’d have no other issue to speak of
They do fuuk all!!!!

And now run by a baby killer. Wow

[the big wheel]

We should be voting a different mp every election
Until we get one that actually does something and
Then vote them in again so they earn that fuukn pension
That no one else gets for doing fuuk alll

[bucket]

He may be a farmer and he may be knowledgeable in ag, I didn’t say he wasn’t. I said there is no evidence he’s taken his voice to Ottawa on the behalf of the constituency.

There’s some other examples of a farming family in federal and provincial politics that aren’t far from me. The fact that they’re farmers hasn’t made them any more likeable as politicians.

Second generation politicians. Good old Devin helped gut BRMs under Gerry. I think his dad got him the job.

Can you think of another second generation poltician that has also turned out to be a dud?

[the big wheel]

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My riding is a given. The world will end before it doesn’t go blue.

“Hi I’m Damien from Alberta. Most of my constituents are reliant on agriculture but the only thing I’m known for is my fight against the banning of conversion therapy.”

Blaithin,

MP Damien is a farmer just like me working with his family. Your crusted cynical view does no justice to the multiple difficult problems that MP Damien's constituency office deal with daily, carefully helping folks who need further information on working through the Ottawa maze of multiple sidetrack difficulties.

There is unlikely a better informed MP on Agricultural matters than MP Damien. Taking the conversion therapy issue out of context, after MP's carefully tried to correct Liberal intentional mistakes... shows how badly mainstream media distorts what good work, and common sense revisions, are ignored; to sell news while smearing our good hard working MP's in Ottawa.

In working with MP Damien for nearly 4 years, there is few days he does not work 'farmer hours' just like the rest of us here in the farm community in Alberta.

Let me know if there is anything we can help you with... will be honoured to be of assistance.

Cheers

Never heard of the guy!!!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

First of all I m talking about a level field
With the countries that support their farmers

Prove to me that all of those support payments don't just get bid into land rental rates, and land costs, leaving the farmer exactly the same place he( she) started out, except turning over larger sums of money.

And considering that all of those governments are bankrupt in every way except reality, don't budget on those supports being sustainable for the long term.

[bucket]

Prove to me that all of those support payments don't just get bid into land rental rates, and land costs, leaving the farmer exactly the same place he( she) started out, except turning over larger sums of money.

And considering that all of those governments are bankrupt in every way except reality, don't budget on those supports being sustainable for the long term.

Fair comments but then why did the liberals have to spend half a trillion for the average Canadian ?

[the big wheel]

Prove to me that all of those support payments don't just get bid into land rental rates, and land costs, leaving the farmer exactly the same place he( she) started out, except turning over larger sums of money.

And considering that all of those governments are bankrupt in every way except reality, don't budget on those supports being sustainable for the long term.

That argument is so lame it isn’t funny it’s
Why farmers are looked at as dumb to be honest.
Do you see any other profession asking for a lower
Wage so that their expenses go down???
Get real! That’s an old conservative line justifying
Not making an effective program. It truly is!! I had
A buddy work in the conservative ag team and
That was the exact line they wanted to get out
To farmers.

Our province has a golden opportunity to get back
The equalization through the 60/40 split offered
By the feds but hey won’t too stupid to do math
And don’t want to admit the liberals would help when
The conservatives won’t. Then come year end
Oh me oh my we re broke and they are actually broke
Right now but they ll be admitting it then with a
Finger up their asses wondering what to do.

If you don’t understand how much we put into
The economy compared to get back you ain’t doing
The books on your farm.

[Blaithin]

I’d be fine with no money.

Just stop trying to regulate and tax farms out of existence. And that’s applicable to any party.

[Old Cowzilla]

I can get good coverage on crops through crop ins. on the grain side but the cattle side your pretty much on your own. That's why you see pasture torn up for crop when it should be left alone. Most fed MPS I think don't like cows.

[shtferbrains]

https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/farmland-insider-grundy-county-iowa-land-fetches-22600-per-acre

Iowa farmland at over $22k acre.
Basicly says higher the prices go the more likely investors are the buyers.

https://www.agriculture.com/news/business/highest-farm-income-in-eight-years-but-one-third-comes-from-government

This one says subsidies were more than $45 billion possibly near 1/2 of net income. Numbers a little fuzzy there.
Inputs went up $26 billion.

I don't think you will find a similar accounting of Canadian numbers on one page.

OMHO the more government involvement the more we move to Corprate only and the less chance of any new or legacy farms unless parents are able to start them on third base.
Near me most all are 2nd gen or less. Viable commercial family run farms with good cash flo.

[bucket]

Government policy is dictating the future of farms. If you don't support farmers then then they leave. The corporate farms will thrive with TFWs until shit hits the fan again and then they will also ask for help...No different than Dofasco or Algoma or Air Canada ...but the bail out will be considerably larger than just helping out the existing farms.

What happens in a year when the slaughterhouses start laying shifts off because there are no cattle to slaughter?

What happens when the graincos start laying people off because the grain is gone.

Same goes for the railways and they are more than happy to ask for an increase in freight rates and they will get it.

While not getting government help is a noble objective, people had better wake up that globally every country takes some interest in their farmers. If working off the farm to get ahead appeals to you and its a good thing then the same could be said for the millions that would have been without work when the pandemic hit instead of getting half a trillion in aid from the Trudeau government.