Vaccine passport in Saskatchewan? How many days?

[Blaithin]

A handful of kids get measles after vaccinated. In contrast 20% of the daily covid hospitalizations in Canada are vaxxed. In Israel that number is over 50% even after a 3rd booster.

mRNA is not a typical vaccine. It makes a subunit of the spike protein on the virus. Thats why its failing.

MMR vaccines use entire live or attenuated viruses so your body makes antibodies to the entire thing.

mRNA was supposed to be the cats azz because it was faster and cheaper and could be tweaked. Where are the tweaks? Giving more of something thats not working isnt a solution.

Ah, but are kids vaccinated for measles constantly inundated by the virus?

Since 99% (probably not the actual number but it’s high) of the population is vaccinated for measles, the chance of a child coming into contact with the virus is slim.

Translate that to Covid where the virus is currently quite active…. Why wouldn’t there be an expectation of more people with the vaccine still becoming ill.

Translate that to another vaccine, say like the flu, which only covers certain strains seasonally and therefore still allows people vaccinated to become ill with a strain outside of the chosen 5 for the year, then again, why is there an expectation that the Covid vaccinated wouldn’t get ill?

People using completely logical and known reasons for the vaccinated becoming ill as proof for why the vaccine is crap and they won’t get it makes them sound slightly moronic.

[flea beetle]

So you feel that, in the case of Israel, 50% of cases being vaxed people is acceptable?

You are talking a handful of breakthrough measles cases vs. a failed attempt at a vaccine.

What was that about sounding slightly moronic?

[TOM4CWB]

So you feel that, in the case of Israel, 50% of cases being vaxed people is acceptable?

Vaccines by their very nature need boosters.
How many breakthroughs were Pfizer after 120 days of the second Jab?

The WHO doesn’t want Jab 3rd booster shots because 2/3 of the world’s population has not been vaccinated in the first place…

Those over 65 and allowed the 3rd booster think about a Moderna jab, as it has over 3 times the active of Pfizer jab which clearly the data shows provides better protection .

Just saying

Cheers

[Blaithin]

So you feel that, in the case of Israel, 50% of cases being vaxed people is acceptable?

What was that about sounding slightly moronic?

I don’t know the details of Israel.

Are they predominantly a variant that’s mutated after the initial vaccines were under distribution?

Do they have any other measures in place?

How much of the population is vaccinated?

How severe are the cases that are vaccinated?

I’m not going to jump to conclusions based on one sentence I’ve read on an ag forum.

[flea beetle]

Vaccines by their very nature need boosters.
How many breakthroughs were Pfizer after 120 days of the second Jab?

The WHO doesn’t want Jab 3rd booster shots because 2/3 of the world’s population has not been vaccinated in the first place…

Those over 65 and allowed the 3rd booster think about a Moderna jab, as it has over 3 times the active of Pfizer jab which clearly the data shows provides better protection .

Just saying

Cheers

And what happens when the third jab starts waning in effect, but only half of the worlds population is triple vaxed? And they are needing a 4th booster? It isn’t feasible.

So we are going to be on lockdown forever then because they can’t roll out the boosters fast enough? If they lasted a year or two between boosters, then you guys might be on to something. But months worth of protection does not work in the real world.

And you for sure can’t discriminate between vaxed and unvaxed when the effectiveness of what you want to discriminate with is gone in mere months. If you want to get the jab, have at it, but F-off with the discrimination based on it.

[Jordy2323]

If the covid vaccine is "a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases", then lots and lots of vitamins & natural supplements are now "vaccines" according to that definition

[flea beetle]

I don’t know the details of Israel.

Are they predominantly a variant that’s mutated after the initial vaccines were under distribution?

Do they have any other measures in place?

How much of the population is vaccinated?

How severe are the cases that are vaccinated?

I’m not going to jump to conclusions based on one sentence I’ve read on an ag forum.

But you aren’t going to look into it either since it doesn’t fit your narrative…

[Blaithin]

But you aren’t going to look into it either since it doesn’t fit your narrative…

What’s my narrative?

[flea beetle]

Seems to come across that the vax works, and is safe, and you are an idiot to think otherwise…

Or should I say moron?

[Blaithin]

It works as good and is as safe as any other medical treatment used in modern medicine. Better than some, less than others.

But then my expectations weren’t that it would be 100% effective or 100% safe.

And yes, I think people sound moronic when they proclaim it’s not effective with nothing else included to substantiate why it may or may not be besides numbers of sick. Considering the circumstance it’s been fairly effective and with further use it’s effectiveness should increase. That’s the nature of a vaccination. It’s true effectiveness can’t really be measured until we’re farther down the line.

Does it bother you so much, flea beetle, that a random person on the internet finds some of your expressions dumb?

[flea beetle]

Again… if 50% of vaxed getting sick is effective…good for you I guess…

Isn’t the purpose of a vaccine to decrease the amount of people getting sick? So wouldn’t it be prudent to question when vaccinated people are in fact getting sick?

And no, I could care less what a random person on the internet thinks of me. That would be moronic😉

[Blaithin]

Again… if 50% of vaxed getting sick is effective…good for you I guess…

Isn’t the purpose of a vaccine to decrease the amount of people getting sick? So wouldn’t it be prudent to question when vaccinated people are in fact getting sick?

And no, I could care less what a random person on the internet thinks of me. That would be moronic😉

It would be prudent to question many things about a 50% number. I’ve already listed the questions I would want answers too.

[flea beetle]

So go find them…that is what normal people do when they want answers.

Well that, or else post pictures of chickens…

[jazz]

It would be prudent to question many things about a 50% number. I’ve already listed the questions I would want answers too.

Blaithin, the very stats you are questioning were used to lock down and torpedo an entire economy. Remember when any death from covid was too many?

So now when the case count has anomalies and should raise at least questions, you argue on context.

If we are looking for context, I would like to see the autopsies from the supposed 600k that died from covid in the US.

[Blaithin]

Why??