Hood was frosty

[bucket]

At 5am this morning there was frost on the hood of truck in yard. Should mean there was a good frost out in the field.

Not a hard one but its well past the normal frost dates. Need some help on the flax and the weeds since the roundup and extras are not doing the job.

[Old Cowzilla]

Windy here and 10c this morning range hood flapper working all night

[furrowtickler]

[furrowtickler]

5 degrees colder than town where local temps are recorded , that was only 3 miles NE of town .
Shows how skewed real temperatures get .

[Old Cowzilla]

Yike's don't want it that chilly here beans still puffy in the pods that would cause more grief.

[Blaithin]

Car said -1 at home, 10 miles away -3 at work.

My goosebumps said long johns.

[furrowtickler]

Plus 1 in town , still -4 to -5 in the entire surrounding area NE of town
But that does not count in temperature records.... ever LOL . So easy to manipulate data . They have society so hood winked ... so happy to accept the carbon tax ....

[Blaithin]

Plus 1 in town , still -4 to -5 in the entire surrounding area NE of town
But that does not count in temperature records.... ever LOL . So easy to manipulate data . They have society so hood winked ... so happy to accept the carbon tax ....

I know of a weather station 8 miles south of a town, out behind a farmers bin yard, along the edge of a drainage ditch. It records the weather for that town.

Is it manipulating data by being where it’s at?

Does that answer depend on if it said it was warmer or colder this morning?

[furrowtickler]

I know of a weather station 8 miles south of a town, out behind a farmers bin yard, along the edge of a drainage ditch. It records the weather for that town.

Is it manipulating data by being where it’s at?

Does that answer depend on if it said it was warmer or colder this morning?

It’s recording the actual temperature for that area
In town that represents a tiny tiny fraction of the entire surrounding area . Huge difference
The vast majority of temp readings are taking from cities , airports and towns that are generally warmer in daytime highs and always warmer in cold still mornings. The vast temperature reading they use are like that .
What you described would be very very rare , you know that biathin

[furrowtickler]

But you are right on how easy it can be to manipulate temperature data with your example as well

[Blaithin]

Do you know where the temperature is taken at is more my point.

If the weather station is two miles out of town in a field, does your point stand.

Yeah lots say airport. Calgary is the airport, that will be warmer. Red deer is the airport. Not the same scale as Calgary, still could be affected a bit. Three Hills is the airport. It’s 2 miles out of town in a field.

Just because the weather is listed for town doesn’t mean the station is in or anywhere near town. They’re just as likely to be out in a random field.

[dmlfarmer]

But you are right on how easy it can be to manipulate temperature data with your example as well

It would be manipulation if they continually moved weather stations but if they use the same station in the same location year after year for decades it will reflect if change is happening. Just because it disagrees with your micro climate temps is irrelevant. Likely would
get same rate of change if your station was used long term

[Sheepwheat]

It would be manipulation if they continually moved weather stations but if they use the same station in the same location year after year for decades it will reflect if change is happening. Just because it disagrees with your micro climate temps is irrelevant. Likely would
get same rate of change if your station was used long term

Removing hundreds of rural weather stations in the 90’s doesn’t help either. Ours was one of them.

[farming101]

It would be manipulation if they continually moved weather stations but if they use the same station in the same location year after year for decades it will reflect if change is happening. Just because it disagrees with your micro climate temps is irrelevant. Likely would
get same rate of change if your station was used long term

If a city grows up around the weather station over the decades it is no longer useful for tracking long term temperature changes

[furrowtickler]

It would be manipulation if they continually moved weather stations but if they use the same station in the same location year after year for decades it will reflect if change is happening. Just because it disagrees with your micro climate temps is irrelevant. Likely would
get same rate of change if your station was used long term

Micro climates are in city limits and airports that represent a tiny fraction of the land mass on any country .
Not sure why that’s not hard to understand, but then that would go against the current agreement on man made global warming
Two sides to every coin