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    #13
    We keep samples of our canola seed after noticing poor vigor on one lot a couple years ago. This year i sent one sample away after i suspected poor vigor and it came back only 63% while germ in the 90s.As far as i can find out there is no set standard for vigor. For the next crop i will be finding out vigor before we buy. Probably will be no use. Perhaps commissions can look at that. Im suspecting 2 year old seed.

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      #14
      Originally posted by jamesb View Post
      We grew quite a few Invigor varieties. 233P was the best by far. Worst was a Liberty tolerant Proven 660 that looked good but had bad pod drop. Was sold to me as a straight cut but should have swathed it.
      We had the same sold to us a couple years ago as a straight cut variety also, luckily the Pioneer seed guy was out one day and we were discussing this canola, he said proven bought some Pioneer varieties and they are not straight cut canola. We questioned Proven on it and then admitted it might be better to swath it, so we did, but it still didn’t come close to the 252 we had that year.

      In the fight for seed acres they will tell us anything to make a sale!!!

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        #15
        The other factor in vigor is what they refer to as contra seed grown in the southern hemisphere.
        New varieties multiply twice as fast if the get two seasons.
        You whould think they might be concerned about less than best performance in the first season of a new variety but must figure the pump has more influence than the prefomance.

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          #16
          Originally posted by wardtoma View Post
          yes, canola check-off organizations are the major funders that keep the canola performance trials going. the varieties included are submitted by the seed companies, which does limit what's included. in order to keep costs down the sites are kept to the minimum required to generate the needed statistics, and in the end it means not every community will have a trial site, but there should be comparison site data available.

          Don't hesitate to contact any of the provincial canola groups directly if you have any questions.

          Ward Toma, General Manager
          Alberta Canola
          Thx Ward for the good work you folks do!

          I spoke earlier this summer about Nexera 1030RR a new taller longer season Canola.

          We are pleased that it is performing well!
          With all the heat and no rain from the third week of July close to 1T per acre, showed many pictures of this field earlier this summer!

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            #17
            Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
            Thx Ward for the good work you folks do!

            I spoke earlier this summer about Nexera 1030RR a new taller longer season Canola.

            We are pleased that it is performing well!
            With all the heat and no rain from the third week of July close to 1T per acre, showed many pictures of this field earlier this summer!



            Picture from earlier this summer! About 7” to July 22 then cut Aug 31.

            Sandy land with granular Edge spring application no till just seeded with 1870 Conservapac May 21
            Wheat in 2020 70#NH3. Peas 2019
            NH3 high pressure in row app 70#/ac direct Dutch deep band opener ; 12” pencil Deere seed tool Opener
            Last edited by TOM4CWB; Sep 21, 2021, 19:53.

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              #18
              Originally posted by seldomseen View Post
              I still think 5440 was the best one they had and nothing since has been as good.
              I sure liked the older liberty varieties 2663 and 5020. They were both very good performers!

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                #19
                Dryland l345 beat the crap out of dryland 357 it just went dormant in the heat and dry now it thinks it should do something comments above are dead on, if it was under irrigation id be watering it for fall grazing. 357 may do better if it ever rains again but probably not going to be invited back next year.
                345 and 340 under irrigation 345 much taller and higher podding 340 more like 233 looks like the 340 will outyeild the 345 but had more pod shatter after this weeks hurricane. Will know for sure in a couple days . think I like the 340 better but I hate to see any shatter.

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                  #20
                  In the usa they do a cold soil germ and vigor.

                  Is this what they dmin the canadian seed testing labs?

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by wardtoma View Post
                    yes, canola check-off organizations are the major funders that keep the canola performance trials going. the varieties included are submitted by the seed companies, which does limit what's included. in order to keep costs down the sites are kept to the minimum required to generate the needed statistics, and in the end it means not every community will have a trial site, but there should be comparison site data available.

                    Don't hesitate to contact any of the provincial canola groups directly if you have any questions.

                    Ward Toma, General Manager
                    Alberta Canola
                    Would it be a legal issue to go about collecting and publishing trial data on your own selection of high yield cultivars available to farmer today? Why must they be submitted by seed companies if the farmers are the ones funding the program ?

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                      #22
                      On our farm we grew all Liberty resistant varieties, top yielder this year with less than 4” of rain and none in July was L340. All yields should be taken with a grain of salt, this year was all about location, location we started with frost then flea beetles then no rain and relentless heat and finally wind to toss the swaths around, glad it’s finally in the bin ad
                      and can now move on to next year. it’s a wonder we got what we did. Yields on my farm was a little less than 50% so to protect my actual numbers I’ll express my yields as a percentage of L340.
                      L340 @ 100
                      L357 @ 91
                      L345 @ 83
                      506 @ 76
                      505 @ 71
                      Again it comes down with location, thunderstorms, wind, frost and every other threat that seemed to happen this year so don’t take it personally if your favourite variety is at the bottom of my list. On a normal year these results would e much different I’m sure.

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                        #23
                        I agree it's about the area.

                        We had 3 inches during the growing season and now 5 in since August 10.

                        Also, our temp on the east side is usually about 3 C less and yes that helps.

                        L340 was number one were harvesting now and the last 10 quarters are all L340 very happy. Our 233 was good but half normal. 506 was on a section, one half did well for this year other was not so good.

                        Then believe it or not was 252 we swath and it was very good. We had 505 but it didn't do the wow factor like 501 other years.

                        Dekalb PC has potential till the hail wiped it out.

                        We did see pod drop on the hailed out.

                        There is a reason the North and East grow canola plus Manitoba Temp in Summer and usually more rain. Yield is half normal to a little above. Half. Canola did well in the south and west in the wet years very well. Hell stupid well but Canola doesn't like days over 28 it's a fact. You might have got rain but the heat cooked a healthy plant.

                        Just imagine growing 65 Canola at today's prices.

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                          #24
                          65bpa canola would never give you today's prices. Unless you are a subsidized irrigation farmer.

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