IS now the time to quit admitting unvaccinated people.

[fjlip]

This sh it is getting all fu cked up. Divide society and people will be KILLING each other over a fu cking cold.

Wow would the Nazis/Stalin/Mao be impressed.

[burnt]

400 nurses in Ottawa either left or were walked off the job today. For some reason i doubt they'd be opposed to treating anyone that offers a brown bag full of $100 US bills. This has all the makings of an underground healthcare system, and it could be superior to the govt endorsed system.

And this is only the beginning of medical staff losses.

The evil fiends behind these firings are fully planned and well prepared - they will now pour out a deluge of hate propaganda that will demonize the medical staff that refuse to surrender their personal autonomy to the jabber enforcers.

The AHS top dog has an annual salary of over $500,000. The same excessive pay scale holds all across the country and includes many, many more admin who earn far more than their actual value.

The annual, accumulative sum of their excessive pay runs in the hundreds of millions and would build and equip more hospitals than we could ever need.

So if you have a family member who is being denied necessary medical procedures, why on earth would you not place the blame for the lack of service at the feet of someone who has not only been overpaid for decades, but are also positioned to have made a real, positive contribution to the overall well-being of Canadians?

Canadians, I might add, who are paying their bloated salaries?

Why are you not directing your anger at Verna Yiu?

Seems there may be some question marks surrounding her credibility -

https://thenationaltelegraph.com/regional/ahs-ceo-caught-spreading-misinformation-about-icu-bed-capacity

Is Verna Yiu creating a crisis to help force a false narrative of medical capacity overload?

The best perp is the one who succeeds in framing another for their crimes.

[agstar77]

After all I pay my taxes like everyone else.[/QUOTE]

As usual you are wrong ,must be the delusional side. I said unvaxed should be treated.

[Oliver88]

Sure, so long as we ban the druggies, drunks and spelunkers as well. Oh and lung cancer patients too. And abortions too.

If you are going to apply a morality test to access services, then go all the way.

So in other words we are headed towards private healthcare and are premiums will be based on our health risk level. Maybe with this system we can finally increase our ICU beds?

[Austrian Economics]

According the principles of socialized medicine, you cannot be denied treatment in a medical facility no matter the reason for your illness.

This is undoubtedly legally enshrined in the Canada Health Act so good luck trying to deny treatment to people based on vaccination status. Not that this is a valid reason to deny treatment in the first place.

Socialized medicine is in a condition of chronic failure. It was bad before covid and it was only a matter of time before it began to collapse anyway.

[newguy]

According the principles of socialized medicine, you cannot be denied treatment in a medical facility no matter the reason for your illness.

This is undoubtedly legally enshrined in the Canada Health Act so good luck trying to deny treatment to people based on vaccination status. Not that this is a valid reason to deny treatment in the first place.

Socialized medicine is in a condition of chronic failure. It was bad before covid and it was only a matter of time before it began to collapse anyway.

Maybe the unvaccinated should open their eyes.Who does the sick go to when they want to live? Our health system is doing everything possible to prevent those from getting sick and prevention is always the best treatment.

[Guest]

[QUOTE=newguy Our health system is doing everything possible to prevent those from getting sick.[/QUOTE]

No they're not!! The health system is a business and there's no money in cures and healthy people

[blackpowder]

Regarding the fear of two tiered health care. We already seem to have it.
Access for all paid by a few. (I can live with that concept, but leads to problems)
Doctors paralyzed by and incentivized by costing protocols.
In the mental health field, there really are no private psychiatrists in Alberta. Not encouraged or enticed by payment regime.
The wealthy are leaving the province already for treatment. There are hyphenated Canadians with access to their own extra pool of funds and top of list placement within our "public" system.
My son has been abandoned by the public system. A private one is being denied.
A full tear down required.

[jazz]

Does the same standard apply to them in that situation?

Dont have to be a conspiracy theorist to see 30% of daily case (including hospitalization) are in vaxxed. Only a matter of time before some of them are in ICU. Only a matter of time before waning immunity hits the early adopter crowd. Only a matter of time before the 3 shotters demand the 2 shotters are denied and so on. Then the holier than thou narrative falls apart pretty fast.

[blackpowder]

Regarding Covid.
If everyone took everything on Facebook at Face value only, treated it as entertainment only and and always fact checked what they saw, we'd be further along.

[TASFarms]

Dont have to be a conspiracy theorist to see 30% of daily case (including hospitalization) are in vaxxed. Only a matter of time before some of them are in ICU. Only a matter of time before waning immunity hits the early adopter crowd. Only a matter of time before the 3 shotters demand the 2 shotters are denied and so on. Then the holier than thou narrative falls apart pretty fast.

In the last 2 age groups it close to 50/50

[burnt]

So in other words we are headed towards private healthcare and are premiums will be based on our health risk level. Maybe with this system we can finally increase our ICU beds?

It sounds like Alberta should stop cutting number of ICU beds available. Why would a "healthcare" system actually cut ICU beds during a plandemic?

[burnt]

Dont have to be a conspiracy theorist to see 30% of daily case (including hospitalization) are in vaxxed. Only a matter of time before some of them are in ICU. Only a matter of time before waning immunity hits the early adopter crowd. Only a matter of time before the 3 shotters demand the 2 shotters are denied and so on. Then the holier than thou narrative falls apart pretty fast.

"Fully jabbed" means two weeks after second shot.

Before the two weeks is up, they're not considered fully jabbed.

Therefore, since the jab can cause covid in some, the actual number of jabbed hospitalized cases is in all likelihood much higher than reported.

So there's that lil issue also, to skew the numbers to support the narrative.

It may well be that the jab is perpetuating the plandemic.

And leading to cancelled surgeries...

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Our health system is doing everything possible to prevent those from getting sick and prevention is always the best treatment.

Everything possible?

As I understand it, Underlying conditions for serious outcomes for Covid cases include being overweight, hypertension, diabetes, cardiovascular issues, etc. In most cases, these are conditions could be prevented, or even reversed with a healthy lifestyle.

What has our health system done to prevent these at risk people from being in the at risk group?

Maybe excersise and healthy eating should be mandated too? That would ease the burden on the medical system.

Everyone wants the easy button. Much easier to take vaccines, and rely on the medical system to take care of us, than to take any personal responsibility for our own health.

[jazz]

Everyone wants the easy button. Much easier to take vaccines, and rely on the medical system to take care of us, than to take any personal responsibility for our own health.

Locking people at home, forced working from home, skip the dishes to your door, I mean what could go wrong.

All those underlying conditions can be treated with medication. We would have better off to mass prescribe those instead of making a vaccine. Told people to get off the couch stop eating get moving drop a quick 10.

Maybe anyone with a BMI in the severe obese category should be denied service as well.

You can find many patients smoking in the hospital entry way FFS. At St Pauls in saskatoon, the patients go out in front and do drugs.