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    #37
    [QUOTE=newguy Our health system is doing everything possible to prevent those from getting sick.[/QUOTE]

    No they're not!! The health system is a business and there's no money in cures and healthy people

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      #38
      Regarding the fear of two tiered health care. We already seem to have it.
      Access for all paid by a few. (I can live with that concept, but leads to problems)
      Doctors paralyzed by and incentivized by costing protocols.
      In the mental health field, there really are no private psychiatrists in Alberta. Not encouraged or enticed by payment regime.
      The wealthy are leaving the province already for treatment. There are hyphenated Canadians with access to their own extra pool of funds and top of list placement within our "public" system.
      My son has been abandoned by the public system. A private one is being denied.
      A full tear down required.

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        #39
        Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
        Does the same standard apply to them in that situation?
        Dont have to be a conspiracy theorist to see 30% of daily case (including hospitalization) are in vaxxed. Only a matter of time before some of them are in ICU. Only a matter of time before waning immunity hits the early adopter crowd. Only a matter of time before the 3 shotters demand the 2 shotters are denied and so on. Then the holier than thou narrative falls apart pretty fast.

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          #40
          Regarding Covid.
          If everyone took everything on Facebook at Face value only, treated it as entertainment only and and always fact checked what they saw, we'd be further along.

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            #41
            Originally posted by jazz View Post
            Dont have to be a conspiracy theorist to see 30% of daily case (including hospitalization) are in vaxxed. Only a matter of time before some of them are in ICU. Only a matter of time before waning immunity hits the early adopter crowd. Only a matter of time before the 3 shotters demand the 2 shotters are denied and so on. Then the holier than thou narrative falls apart pretty fast.
            In the last 2 age groups it close to 50/50

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              #42
              Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
              So in other words we are headed towards private healthcare and are premiums will be based on our health risk level. Maybe with this system we can finally increase our ICU beds?
              It sounds like Alberta should stop cutting number of ICU beds available. Why would a "healthcare" system actually cut ICU beds during a plandemic?

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                #43
                Originally posted by jazz View Post
                Dont have to be a conspiracy theorist to see 30% of daily case (including hospitalization) are in vaxxed. Only a matter of time before some of them are in ICU. Only a matter of time before waning immunity hits the early adopter crowd. Only a matter of time before the 3 shotters demand the 2 shotters are denied and so on. Then the holier than thou narrative falls apart pretty fast.
                "Fully jabbed" means two weeks after second shot.

                Before the two weeks is up, they're not considered fully jabbed.

                Therefore, since the jab can cause covid in some, the actual number of jabbed hospitalized cases is in all likelihood much higher than reported.

                So there's that lil issue also, to skew the numbers to support the narrative.

                It may well be that the jab is perpetuating the plandemic.

                And leading to cancelled surgeries...

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                  #44
                  Originally posted by newguy View Post
                  Our health system is doing everything possible to prevent those from getting sick and prevention is always the best treatment.
                  Everything possible?

                  As I understand it, Underlying conditions for serious outcomes for Covid cases include being overweight, hypertension, diabetes, cardiovascular issues, etc. In most cases, these are conditions could be prevented, or even reversed with a healthy lifestyle.

                  What has our health system done to prevent these at risk people from being in the at risk group?

                  Maybe excersise and healthy eating should be mandated too? That would ease the burden on the medical system.

                  Everyone wants the easy button. Much easier to take vaccines, and rely on the medical system to take care of us, than to take any personal responsibility for our own health.

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                    #45
                    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                    Everyone wants the easy button. Much easier to take vaccines, and rely on the medical system to take care of us, than to take any personal responsibility for our own health.
                    Locking people at home, forced working from home, skip the dishes to your door, I mean what could go wrong.

                    All those underlying conditions can be treated with medication. We would have better off to mass prescribe those instead of making a vaccine. Told people to get off the couch stop eating get moving drop a quick 10.

                    Maybe anyone with a BMI in the severe obese category should be denied service as well.

                    You can find many patients smoking in the hospital entry way FFS. At St Pauls in saskatoon, the patients go out in front and do drugs.

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                      #46
                      Drugs is a choice. Obesity is, in the vast majority of cases, a lifestyle choice. Many modern health issues are a result of lifestyle/choice.

                      In a family member's big city nursing experience in the E.R. where she worked for several years, some of the most gut-wrenching situations she faced were O.Ds.

                      Almost daily times the cops brought in comatose druggies. What really made it insufferable was that the nursing staff got to know many of them on a first name basis. The druggies, not the cops. The cops hated it too. They were some of the biggest wussies in that room.

                      Once the druggie came thru the doors, the hospital had to do it all to try to keep them alive. Usually with success because we can. Just to see them go back out into the same rut.

                      Each one cost several thousand to service, plus whatever it cost the cops for their time and they had to stay there until the patient was stabilized and it was "safe" for the medical team.

                      These people could come out of their fix kinda crazy and sometimes quite violent.

                      Some real battles took place there but she was never injured, that we knew of.

                      One was brought in, had some real issues, went beserk, crapped on the floor, smeared her feces all over the room where they had locked her in, had to call in a special team to deal with her.

                      These "hospital patients" were all a result of choice. By the thousands, across Canada, all on our tab, and every day.

                      Should they just be cut off from any further assistance?

                      I don't know of anyone who gets the Wuhan Flu by choice. And those infected could have had exposure from a jabber spreader as easily as anyone, or perhaps even more so...

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                        #47
                        Out of Israel today

                        It is now expected to be announced that at least FOUR vaccinations will be needed to be considered ‘fully vaccinated’ and able to engage in society.

                        Over the weekend marches took place in the streets of Tel Aviv against the so called ‘Green Pass’.

                        Jabs for life. Open your eyes.

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                          #48
                          Originally posted by jazz View Post
                          Locking people at home, forced working from home, skip the dishes to your door, I mean what could go wrong.

                          All those underlying conditions can be treated with medication. We would have better off to mass prescribe those instead of making a vaccine. Told people to get off the couch stop eating get moving drop a quick 10.

                          Maybe anyone with a BMI in the severe obese category should be denied service as well.

                          You can find many patients smoking in the hospital entry way FFS. At St Pauls in saskatoon, the patients go out in front and do drugs.

                          Covid did not bring about obesity, it's been a major issue long before that.

                          In fact there are more obese people in rural areas than in urban areas.

                          Just curious how many Agriviller's on here have the spare tire rapping around their back or have a chunky partner. .

                          Technology has made it to easy for farmers now a days. How often is the grain shovel used or is anybody still pitching small squares?


                          Just heard this morning Kenney is begging for the military to come in and help. I guess now that fall is upon us the "Best Summer Ever Alberta 2021" has ended and reality has sunken in.

                          And Moe halts Sask's organ donations.

                          But of COURSE our health system is at fault and Covid cases are exaggerated, yet none of the doctors on Agriville are giving examples of other health systems that meet their standards.

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