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    #2
    Originally posted by Robertbarlage View Post
    Let me fix that for ya
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      #3
      I realize that orange circle is now the symbol for the truth and reconciliation awareness day today BUT the esteemed Mr. Webers version suits the Western Producers long time left leaning agenda quite well.

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        #4
        Everyone wearing an orange shirt today?

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          #5
          Both sides have to tell the truth about
          Where we were and where we need to go,
          Until both sides are ready it won’t mean
          What it should.

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            #6
            Are Indian welfare cheques going to be delayed till Monday like my parts? Asking for a friend🤣🤣

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              #7
              This is a complex situation where there’s a lot of hard feelings which will come to the forefront. No doubt about it. As much as it honestly pisses me off about the pitty party the govt and media exacerbates it does not hurt to get this out for those who had to endure the awful thing. However, and I said pitty party, how do we all move forward and fix the generational disfunction resultant from it. You hear the sjw’s throwing around the colonialism term. This is not only a problem with the natives but also how we as westerners have been treated by central Canada. Think about it for a minute. Our ancestors were bs’d into coming here for untold riches and prosperity to find a cold barren land to be used by the federal powers to hew the wood and draw the water. We were all lied to and subsequently taken advantage of. We were all subject of colonialism. Where it all diverges though is the natives were cast away to rot while our ancestors pressed on. Now we have what we have because of that. I see why they are pissed, wouldn’t you be? Only thing is today the sentiment from natives is they are entitled to reparations. Maybe we are all entitled to reparations because of this colonialism. I never caused this mess nor did anyone here but we have to deal with it and live together eventually.

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                #8
                Since it's a day of truth the native peoples didn't sprung from the earth. They migrated here too. And there were multiple migrations some even back and forth. Native genealogy reached right back into the Horn of Africa like every human.

                What govts did should be seperated from the people. As we have seen with covid govt does whatever it wants without consulting anyone. That's why they always get in trouble.

                My family was told there was a piece of land for them. That's all. They had no part or no knowledge of what govt was doing. Pioneers didn't go to war with natives govt did.

                I will tell our native peoples there is no way out of their situation embracing victimhood and socialism. That will just make it worse.

                I would also tell them their window to make a final deal in Canada is closing fast. FN will eventually be a tiny minority in this country.
                Last edited by jazz; Sep 30, 2021, 14:09.

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                  #9
                  You all seem to ignore the fact that discrimination, hate, racism against first nations people continue to this day.

                  Many first nations people continue to live in poverty with a much lower standard of living and very little opportunity to improve their lives.

                  The residential school system ended in the 1990s. The legacy of abuse and neglect in residential schools continues today in the form of social problems.

                  Most people were never taught about what happened to first nations people. How they were starved onto the reserves so that settlers could have their land. How the children were forcibly removed from their families and stripped of their culture and language and shamed for being Indian.

                  Prime Minster Stephen Harper, you know the guy you all voted for, apologized to first nations for the residential schools. Maybe its time you tried to understand what the apology was for?

                  If you want to learn about the history of first nations and settlement in Western Canada read

                  Clearing the Plains
                  Disease, Politics of Starvation, and the Loss of Indigenous Life
                  By James Daschuk



                  Description

                  Revealing how Canada's first Prime Minister used a policy of starvation against Indigenous people to clear the way for settlement, the multiple award-winning Clearing the Plains sparked widespread debate about genocide in Canada.

                  In arresting, but harrowing, prose, James Daschuk examines the roles that Old World diseases, climate, and, most disturbingly, Canadian politics—the politics of ethnocide—played in the deaths and subjugation of thousands of Indigenous people in the realization of Sir John A. Macdonald’s "National Dream. "

                  It was a dream that came at great expense: the present disparity in health and economic well-being between Indigenous and non-Indigenous populations, and the lingering racism and misunderstanding that permeates the national consciousness to this day.

                  This new edition of Clearing the Plains has a foreword by Pulitzer Prize winning author, Elizabeth Fenn, an opening by Niigaanwewidam James Sinclair, and explanations of the book’s influence by leading Canadian historians. Called “one of the most important books of the twenty-first century” by the Literary Review of Canada, it was named a “Book of the Year” by The Globe and Mail, Quill & Quire, the Writers’ Trust, and won the Sir John A. Macdonald Prize, among many others.

                  "Clearing the Plains is a tour de force that dismantles and destroys the view that Canada has a special claim to humanity in its treatment of indigenous peoples. Daschuk shows how infectious disease and state-supported starvation combined to create a creeping, relentless catastrophe that persists to the present day. The prose is gripping, the analysis is incisive, and the narrative is so chilling that it leaves its reader stunned and disturbed. For days after reading it, I was unable to shake a profound sense of sorrow. This is fearless, evidence-driven history at its finest. " —Elizabeth A. Fenn, author of Pox Americana

                  "Required reading for all Canadians. " —Candace Savage, author of A Geography of Blood

                  "Clearly written, deeply researched, and properly contextualized history. ..Essential reading for everyone interested in the history of indigenous North America. " —J. R. McNeill, author of Mosquito Empires
                  Last edited by chuckChuck; Sep 30, 2021, 17:34.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                    You all seem to ignore the fact that discrimination, hate, racism against first nations people continue to this day.

                    Many first nations people continue to live in poverty with a much lower standard of living and very little opportunity to improve their lives.

                    The residential school system ended in the 1990s. The legacy of abuse and neglect in residential schools continues today in the form of social problems.

                    Most people were never taught about what happened to first nations people. How they were starved onto the reserves so that settlers could have their land. How the children were forcibly removed from their families and stripped of their culture and language and shamed for being Indian.

                    If you want to learn about the history of first nations and settlement in Western Canada read

                    Clearing the Plains
                    Disease, Politics of Starvation, and the Loss of Indigenous Life
                    By James Daschuk



                    Description

                    Revealing how Canada's first Prime Minister used a policy of starvation against Indigenous people to clear the way for settlement, the multiple award-winning Clearing the Plains sparked widespread debate about genocide in Canada.

                    In arresting, but harrowing, prose, James Daschuk examines the roles that Old World diseases, climate, and, most disturbingly, Canadian politics—the politics of ethnocide—played in the deaths and subjugation of thousands of Indigenous people in the realization of Sir John A. Macdonald’s "National Dream. "

                    It was a dream that came at great expense: the present disparity in health and economic well-being between Indigenous and non-Indigenous populations, and the lingering racism and misunderstanding that permeates the national consciousness to this day.

                    This new edition of Clearing the Plains has a foreword by Pulitzer Prize winning author, Elizabeth Fenn, an opening by Niigaanwewidam James Sinclair, and explanations of the book’s influence by leading Canadian historians. Called “one of the most important books of the twenty-first century” by the Literary Review of Canada, it was named a “Book of the Year” by The Globe and Mail, Quill & Quire, the Writers’ Trust, and won the Sir John A. Macdonald Prize, among many others.

                    "Clearing the Plains is a tour de force that dismantles and destroys the view that Canada has a special claim to humanity in its treatment of indigenous peoples. Daschuk shows how infectious disease and state-supported starvation combined to create a creeping, relentless catastrophe that persists to the present day. The prose is gripping, the analysis is incisive, and the narrative is so chilling that it leaves its reader stunned and disturbed. For days after reading it, I was unable to shake a profound sense of sorrow. This is fearless, evidence-driven history at its finest. " —Elizabeth A. Fenn, author of Pox Americana

                    "Required reading for all Canadians. " —Candace Savage, author of A Geography of Blood

                    "Clearly written, deeply researched, and properly contextualized history. ..Essential reading for everyone interested in the history of indigenous North America. " —J. R. McNeill, author of Mosquito Empires
                    Dude I think we here know that. Read my post above. It’s created a lot of problems prolonged by a government throwing just enough money at natives to keep the status quo but too chickenshit to address the problems. Poverty and lack of education go hand in hand. Go teach in an inner city or reserve. Same problems sometimes same people too. No problem throwing dollars at local chief and council to build a rink or racetrack and sports grounds while kids don’t show at school and if they do they have to feed them before they’ll learn anything. Literacy and numeracy rates are crap, hence poverty and drug abuse follows. It’s all screwed and dwelling solely on what was done years ago does not fix the future. Shaming everyone who is non native is not the answer neither. If we are to fix this we all have to reach an understanding. There needs to be the mentality there from both parties. Education is the key. Look at the big picture. Many of these communities especially northern and places in the middle of nowhere are tough places to earn a living. Saddle that with no education and generations of idleness how can you expect anyone to rise above this? I think you know the answer, and it won’t be a band run farm or some other communal schemes. They all end in disasters.

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                      #11
                      Maybe its about time every first nation opened the books up and showed the money coming in going out. If the first nations are getting only poverty amounts, then I am all for working hard to fix it. However, I think there is massive corruption on most first nations and some members are getting filthy rich and they tell everyone else that the "white man" is screwing them and that is why they have nothing. I think most first nations members would be very, very surprised if the books and audits were made public.

                      But until then, it is just guessing. Lots of emotions on the issues, but very few of the facts have been made public.

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