Fall planting

[jdg364]

With the early harvest and then wet harvest for some.. do you think there will be a increase in winter seeded crops (winter wht/ fall rye/ winter triticale)? I was tempted to put some in but we missed the fall rains and still bone dry.

We’ve grown winter crops before and they seem to pencil out fine, it’s just a pain in the ass to get the drill ready in the fall.

[furrowtickler]

We have done winter wheat before. Had decent success just over half the time .
When good it was really good . Nice to harvest dry wheat in early August . Well not like this year lol
But here it needed to go on canola stubble to get enough snow cover to prevent winter kill before Sept 15th. This year no problem, most years it is in this area . Doable but you better be well prepared ahead of time .
We tried on pea stubble and lost 50% to winter kill
It was tough to get canola off most years in time to seed winter wheat .
Time and labour also becomes an issue
We also found that the newer HRSW varieties seeded early May with good fertility will yield close to winter wheat .

Other areas may be different depending on growing season and snow cover.

A lot of winter wheat went in in Montana and South west Sask I think in late August and Early September. Hopefully it turns out good

[WiltonRanch]

Mastin Seeds at Sundre has rights to Pintail which is claimed to be really winter hardy compared to the others. I was talking to one of the guys there, said that’s where Polish canola was a good fit to have early harvested ground to seed ww. I’ve often thought having a winter type crop for grain or even forage throws your weeds off kilter a bit and make better use of snow melt moisture. This year I don’t know if it would’ve mattered. Guys with fall rye were disappointed with its performance.

[jamesb]

We went away from winter wheat when it became clear that the spring wheat yields are as good as winter wheat and price is much better on spring wheat. I like sowing rye but for 2020 it was a wreck because of such poor germination and we didn't get rain until the end of May this year. We only put a half in this fall and would have put more in but its terrible dry and unless we get a decent rain before freeze up it will be a wreck again. This spring we ended up reseeding most of one rye quarter to spring wheat and the wheat yield was decent for the year. Rye bids are around 8 these days and to be frank it isn't good enough compared to hard wheat for a huge amount of acres. If we had any moisture at all I probably would have put in more cause rye cuts the acres to seed in the spring

[Sheepwheat]

The three times I grew winter wheat it was phenomenal. But we get snow. Problem here is getting a field off in time to seed by sept first which is getting later in our zone.