Oil could hit $100 this winter and spur global economic crisis: Bank of America

[the big wheel]

GMC chev introduces truck with 400 mile
Between charge.

[chuckChuck]

The last time energy prices soared gas guzzlers were a hard sell and a lot of wealth was transferred from consumers to oil producers.

Are farmers looking forward to paying higher fuel costs just so Alberta and the oil companies can prosper?

As long as grain prices are high nobody seems to care as much. But lower income consumers that have to heat their homes and put gas in their cars take a bigger hit.

Higher prices will help make alternatives and conservation a more attractive choice which will help speed the transition away from fossil fuels. So high prices will drive a lot of change in consumption.

[sumdumguy]

The carbon tax will bother me much more. This morning Gormley said that my natural gas to heat with will cost 3x what it did last year because of carbon tax.

[STR1]

The last time energy prices soared gas guzzlers were a hard sell and a lot of wealth was transferred from consumers to oil producers.

Are farmers looking forward to paying higher fuel costs just so Alberta and the oil companies can prosper?

As long as grain prices are high nobody seems to care as much. But lower income consumers that have to heat their homes and put gas in their cars take a bigger hit.

Higher prices will help make alternatives and conservation a more attractive choice which will help speed the transition away from fossil fuels. So high prices will drive a lot of change in consumption.

For anyone who believes that the cost of alternative energy supplies will not follow the fossils fuels higher…………….you’re in for a special surprise!!!!

[the big wheel]

Well it’s obvious governments left right or centre
need that revenue so that’s a no brainer

[WiltonRanch]

The last time energy prices soared gas guzzlers were a hard sell and a lot of wealth was transferred from consumers to oil producers.

Are farmers looking forward to paying higher fuel costs just so Alberta and the oil companies can prosper?

As long as grain prices are high nobody seems to care as much. But lower income consumers that have to heat their homes and put gas in their cars take a bigger hit.

Higher prices will help make alternatives and conservation a more attractive choice which will help speed the transition away from fossil fuels. So high prices will drive a lot of change in consumption.

Yes. Carbon taxes exacerbates that for lower income people. As a farmer it is a cost of doing business which I cannot avoid nor pass on. Honestly what can I do to offset energy increases or carbon taxes. If you are actually a farmer what is affecting you and how are you mitigating these increases in energy? It is easy to flap your gums and put lol to everything but what can you tell us dumb ass farmers which will lower our carbon footprint and help us out? Truly if you are not a troll and really a farmer enlighten me please. I follow a lot of alternative energy stuff. I really don’t want to run out of fuel for as long as I live. None of want to. We also don’t want to be paying through the ass through it neither. Think we all want the same but tech isn’t quite there to satisfy yet. Please enlighten me.

[blackpowder]

Chuckonomics so bizarre as to not be worth the effort of response.

[Guest]

Yes. Carbon taxes exacerbates that for lower income people. As a farmer it is a cost of doing business which I cannot avoid nor pass on. Honestly what can I do to offset energy increases or carbon taxes. If you are actually a farmer what is affecting you and how are you mitigating these increases in energy? It is easy to flap your gums and put lol to everything but what can you tell us dumb ass farmers which will lower our carbon footprint and help us out? Truly if you are not a troll and really a farmer enlighten me please. I follow a lot of alternative energy stuff. I really don’t want to run out of fuel for as long as I live. None of want to. We also don’t want to be paying through the ass through it neither. Think we all want the same but tech isn’t quite there to satisfy yet. Please enlighten me.

chucks tuning out ,hard questions , propaganda staff working on a reply

[chuckChuck]

Yes. Carbon taxes exacerbates that for lower income people. As a farmer it is a cost of doing business which I cannot avoid nor pass on. Honestly what can I do to offset energy increases or carbon taxes. If you are actually a farmer what is affecting you and how are you mitigating these increases in energy? It is easy to flap your gums and put lol to everything but what can you tell us dumb ass farmers which will lower our carbon footprint and help us out? Truly if you are not a troll and really a farmer enlighten me please. I follow a lot of alternative energy stuff. I really don’t want to run out of fuel for as long as I live. None of want to. We also don’t want to be paying through the ass through it neither. Think we all want the same but tech isn’t quite there to satisfy yet. Please enlighten me.

I am not surprised that most of the usual suspects can't understand why we need to reduce carbon emissions because most of them deny that human caused climate change is even a problem.

Every small step away from fossil energy I have mentioned has been met with it doesn't work, or its too expensive and a long list of negative bullshit.

Climate change has a price that is much more expensive and a much bigger problem.

Now that energy prices are currently rising because of market forces and not carbon taxes, you are going to have to bite the bullet and pay the energy companies for higher market prices. Simple as that.

This debate is a lot like the covid debate. The science and evidence is ignored and many of the usual suspects won't change their closed minds.

There is not much point in having a detailed discussion on Agriville about how agriculture is going to reduce carbon emissions, when the majority of posters are human caused climate change deniers.

Agriville is a complete waste of time on this and many other issues. The real work and productive discussion is happening elsewhere.

And yes I farm and spend a lot on energy just like everyone else who farms.

[chuckChuck]

Nice self portrait there JWAB!

[jazz]

The oil supercycle will be glorious eh chuck. Canada (cough I mean Alberta) might be able to pay back some of our enormous debt.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Anyone that has farmed clearly knows that wind and solar will NEVER power this economy.

Anyway, thanks for putting my kids through college.

[Hamloc]

I am not surprised that most of the usual suspects can't understand why we need to reduce carbon emissions because most of them deny that human caused climate change is even a problem.

Every small step away from fossil energy I have mentioned has been met with it doesn't work, or its too expensive and a long list of negative bullshit.

Climate change has a price that is much more expensive and a much bigger problem.

Now that energy prices are currently rising because of market forces and not carbon taxes, you are going to have to bite the bullet and pay the energy companies for higher market prices. Simple as that.

This debate is a lot like the covid debate. The science and evidence is ignored and many of the usual suspects won't change their closed minds.

There is not much point in having a detailed discussion on Agriville about how agriculture is going to reduce carbon emissions, when the majority of posters are human caused climate change deniers.

Agriville is a complete waste of time on this and many other issues. The real work and productive discussion is happening elsewhere.

And yes I farm and spend a lot on energy just like everyone else who farms.

The answer from Chuck2 is always the same. I have directly asked him in the past how he was going lower his carbon footprint on the farm. He has always said there is no point “in having a detailed discussion on Agriville because the majority of posters are human caused climate change deniers”.(edited for brevity)

There is no doubt that market forces are pushing up the price of energy. But the lack of supply of natural gas as an example, is being created by government policy. Governments have forced the closure of coal electrical generation as an example. Most coal plants had a captive supply of fuel which to a great extent wasn’t subject to outside market forces. Natural gas which has replaced a lot of these coal plants has many other uses and markets. So while many depend on it for heat they also now depend on it for electricity. Then after creating this increased usage of natural gas governments tried to reduce investment by producers in more exploration and production. Europe is suffering from a Government induced energy crisis and Putin is reaping all the rewards. At the same time China is putting more gigawatts of new coal generation online in one year(have posted the link in the past) than exist in the rest of the world. Plus pushing the world price of coal up because it is short of coal. I am not against eliminating coal we just need a better more dependable replacement like modular nuclear reactors!