Oil could hit $100 this winter and spur global economic crisis: Bank of America

[blackpowder]

Chuckonomics so bizarre as to not be worth the effort of response.

[Guest]

Yes. Carbon taxes exacerbates that for lower income people. As a farmer it is a cost of doing business which I cannot avoid nor pass on. Honestly what can I do to offset energy increases or carbon taxes. If you are actually a farmer what is affecting you and how are you mitigating these increases in energy? It is easy to flap your gums and put lol to everything but what can you tell us dumb ass farmers which will lower our carbon footprint and help us out? Truly if you are not a troll and really a farmer enlighten me please. I follow a lot of alternative energy stuff. I really don’t want to run out of fuel for as long as I live. None of want to. We also don’t want to be paying through the ass through it neither. Think we all want the same but tech isn’t quite there to satisfy yet. Please enlighten me.

chucks tuning out ,hard questions , propaganda staff working on a reply

[chuckChuck]

Yes. Carbon taxes exacerbates that for lower income people. As a farmer it is a cost of doing business which I cannot avoid nor pass on. Honestly what can I do to offset energy increases or carbon taxes. If you are actually a farmer what is affecting you and how are you mitigating these increases in energy? It is easy to flap your gums and put lol to everything but what can you tell us dumb ass farmers which will lower our carbon footprint and help us out? Truly if you are not a troll and really a farmer enlighten me please. I follow a lot of alternative energy stuff. I really don’t want to run out of fuel for as long as I live. None of want to. We also don’t want to be paying through the ass through it neither. Think we all want the same but tech isn’t quite there to satisfy yet. Please enlighten me.

I am not surprised that most of the usual suspects can't understand why we need to reduce carbon emissions because most of them deny that human caused climate change is even a problem.

Every small step away from fossil energy I have mentioned has been met with it doesn't work, or its too expensive and a long list of negative bullshit.

Climate change has a price that is much more expensive and a much bigger problem.

Now that energy prices are currently rising because of market forces and not carbon taxes, you are going to have to bite the bullet and pay the energy companies for higher market prices. Simple as that.

This debate is a lot like the covid debate. The science and evidence is ignored and many of the usual suspects won't change their closed minds.

There is not much point in having a detailed discussion on Agriville about how agriculture is going to reduce carbon emissions, when the majority of posters are human caused climate change deniers.

Agriville is a complete waste of time on this and many other issues. The real work and productive discussion is happening elsewhere.

And yes I farm and spend a lot on energy just like everyone else who farms.

[chuckChuck]

Nice self portrait there JWAB!

[jazz]

The oil supercycle will be glorious eh chuck. Canada (cough I mean Alberta) might be able to pay back some of our enormous debt.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Anyone that has farmed clearly knows that wind and solar will NEVER power this economy.

Anyway, thanks for putting my kids through college.

[Hamloc]

I am not surprised that most of the usual suspects can't understand why we need to reduce carbon emissions because most of them deny that human caused climate change is even a problem.

Every small step away from fossil energy I have mentioned has been met with it doesn't work, or its too expensive and a long list of negative bullshit.

Climate change has a price that is much more expensive and a much bigger problem.

Now that energy prices are currently rising because of market forces and not carbon taxes, you are going to have to bite the bullet and pay the energy companies for higher market prices. Simple as that.

This debate is a lot like the covid debate. The science and evidence is ignored and many of the usual suspects won't change their closed minds.

There is not much point in having a detailed discussion on Agriville about how agriculture is going to reduce carbon emissions, when the majority of posters are human caused climate change deniers.

Agriville is a complete waste of time on this and many other issues. The real work and productive discussion is happening elsewhere.

And yes I farm and spend a lot on energy just like everyone else who farms.

The answer from Chuck2 is always the same. I have directly asked him in the past how he was going lower his carbon footprint on the farm. He has always said there is no point “in having a detailed discussion on Agriville because the majority of posters are human caused climate change deniers”.(edited for brevity)

There is no doubt that market forces are pushing up the price of energy. But the lack of supply of natural gas as an example, is being created by government policy. Governments have forced the closure of coal electrical generation as an example. Most coal plants had a captive supply of fuel which to a great extent wasn’t subject to outside market forces. Natural gas which has replaced a lot of these coal plants has many other uses and markets. So while many depend on it for heat they also now depend on it for electricity. Then after creating this increased usage of natural gas governments tried to reduce investment by producers in more exploration and production. Europe is suffering from a Government induced energy crisis and Putin is reaping all the rewards. At the same time China is putting more gigawatts of new coal generation online in one year(have posted the link in the past) than exist in the rest of the world. Plus pushing the world price of coal up because it is short of coal. I am not against eliminating coal we just need a better more dependable replacement like modular nuclear reactors!

[WiltonRanch]

I am not surprised that most of the usual suspects can't understand why we need to reduce carbon emissions because most of them deny that human caused climate change is even a problem.

Every small step away from fossil energy I have mentioned has been met with it doesn't work, or its too expensive and a long list of negative bullshit.

Climate change has a price that is much more expensive and a much bigger problem.

Now that energy prices are currently rising because of market forces and not carbon taxes, you are going to have to bite the bullet and pay the energy companies for higher market prices. Simple as that.

This debate is a lot like the covid debate. The science and evidence is ignored and many of the usual suspects won't change their closed minds.

There is not much point in having a detailed discussion on Agriville about how agriculture is going to reduce carbon emissions, when the majority of posters are human caused climate change deniers.

Agriville is a complete waste of time on this and many other issues. The real work and productive discussion is happening elsewhere.

And yes I farm and spend a lot on energy just like everyone else who farms.

Okay I’ll start if you think I’m a denier. I winter my cows in the field and feed every second day. No manure to haul and less fertilizer needed to grow feed. Also, fuel usage way less than feeding in the yard. I use alfalfa in hay and pasture to lessen the need for nitrogen fertilizer. I’m cheap and anything which reduces costs is a win. When I built my house I put extra insulation on it and use all led lights. My daily driver is a v6 which uses less fuel than the v8 I had before. Been no till for 10 years now. Only tillage that gets done is usual wet spots and old rough hay fields get worked. I am not far from the city but don’t make a habit of going to town for “coffee”. I really despise excessive packaging on goods and try to make an effort not to buy a bunch of junk sourced abroad and buy North American or at least from countries with higher standards and human rights. I think being environmentally conscious and supportive of democracy goes hand in hand but let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water which I think some are doing by mothballing too much of our present energy infrastructure for not completely proven alternatives.

[Hamloc]

A good article today on Reuters: China digs in on coal, oil gains as energy crisis deepens.

[chuckChuck]

Okay I’ll start if you think I’m a denier. I winter my cows in the field and feed every second day. No manure to haul and less fertilizer needed to grow feed. Also, fuel usage way less than feeding in the yard. I use alfalfa in hay and pasture to lessen the need for nitrogen fertilizer. I’m cheap and anything which reduces costs is a win. When I built my house I put extra insulation on it and use all led lights. My daily driver is a v6 which uses less fuel than the v8 I had before. Been no till for 10 years now. Only tillage that gets done is usual wet spots and old rough hay fields get worked. I am not far from the city but don’t make a habit of going to town for “coffee”. I really despise excessive packaging on goods and try to make an effort not to buy a bunch of junk sourced abroad and buy North American or at least from countries with higher standards and human rights. I think being environmentally conscious and supportive of democracy goes hand in hand but let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water which I think some are doing by mothballing too much of our present energy infrastructure for not completely proven alternatives.

Sounds like you are not a denier and are making some significant effort to reduce emissions and adapt.
Renewables and other low carbon options are going to part of the transition. We are not going to give up all fossil sources until there are viable options. But some people on this site won't support any wind or solar as Alberta is adding significant amounts of both.

[Guest]

for christs sake chuck , we all do
thats what a farmer is FFS
there isn't anyone more in tune with weather and the land, or dependant on it than a farmer
and you're cheerleading for f u c k in assholes that jet set around the country preaching , like that ignorant arsehole jettsetting around the country on her farewell tour, completely out of touch with reality