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    #13
    Booked 75% of normal usage for November delivery. Urea October 2020 $425 , October 2021,$925. Phosphate October 2020, $690,October 2021, $1100.
    Not sure if it was the right thing to do but thought we would hedge the risk somewhat and roll the dice on the last 25%. 4.5 inches of rain in August but still very dry here. Some analysts confident that there will be a pullback in prices midwinter. One can only hope. Haven’t done soil testing yet this fall but based on this years yields and plant growth thinking that we may see considerable residual nitrogen. Fingers crossed.

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      #14
      No dry fertilizer booked yet, will try to get it done this week and hopefully delivery before it snows. Nh3 pricing for spring usually happens around Christmas, haven’t heard any prices yet for spring delivery

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        #15
        Remember that the fertilizer we add is only a portion of the crop usage. N is added with rainfall, which most of us didnt get and also when its dry we dont get the same lev of OM breakdown and release so perhaps more of the added N was used up on a poor crop than we would like to think. I've booked fert for December delivery, but am waiting on soil test results to see what's there.

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          #16
          Originally posted by GDR View Post
          Remember that the fertilizer we add is only a portion of the crop usage. N is added with rainfall, which most of us didnt get and also when its dry we dont get the same lev of OM breakdown and release so perhaps more of the added N was used up on a poor crop than we would like to think. I've booked fert for December delivery, but am waiting on soil test results to see what's there.
          Hence soil tests now are a complete waste of money. Completely uneconomical to buy a crop especially when it is so dry. Have half a mind if I could afford it to fallow a field or two if moisture doesn’t improve. Spray a time or two through summer and work it late summer. Seems to work best for our country. Canola could be $25 but 0x$25 is $0. In 2002 the only crops that got combined here was on fallow. Have enough glyphosate for next year and more than enough if I plant less canola. Fertility levels were decent this spring and used good fertility on top of that to have a 50% crop. I can’t bring myself to sink $20 canola cheque back into overly inflated inputs for a shrinking margin. I’ve seen this rodeo before.

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            #17
            I'll soil test before freeze up. Itll make no difference... theres nothing to freeze. I'll be drilling cores rather than step-on probing anyway.

            If they dont have any come spring then so be it. I'll try to scrounge up some phos for peas, and if theres no N, then maybe put some 20-0-0-24 down for starter and call it a day.

            You can jack commodity prices to the moon, and if we dont end up with MASSIVE amounts of fall precip and snow, it'll all be money down the drain here!

            Theres nothing, nada, zilch for moisture from the surface down to 4+ feet.

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              #18
              Originally posted by helmsdale View Post
              Theres nothing, nada, zilch for moisture from the surface down to 4+ feet.
              This last year got my attention. If I do the same thing next year I may as well put the small time auction service on notice(RB doesnt deal with STOs like me).

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                #19
                Originally posted by helmsdale View Post
                I'll soil test before freeze up. Itll make no difference... theres nothing to freeze. I'll be drilling cores rather than step-on probing anyway.

                If they dont have any come spring then so be it. I'll try to scrounge up some phos for peas, and if theres no N, then maybe put some 20-0-0-24 down for starter and call it a day.

                You can jack commodity prices to the moon, and if we dont end up with MASSIVE amounts of fall precip and snow, it'll all be money down the drain here!

                Theres nothing, nada, zilch for moisture from the surface down to 4+ feet.
                You really wonder if input manufacturers are driving up prices in some aspects because they know they’ll be selling less and want to increase margins more so than high crop prices and increasing production costs.

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                  #20
                  All fertilizer needed for next year is on farm.

                  Not so worried about price going up or down, more worried about supplies.

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                    #21
                    Not booking fert yet for spring22, going to wait and ride her out. Soil samples are being done this wkend and then i guess we will see what’s left. I will definitely be mining some $600 phos from the last few years.

                    On a side note, I’ve bought a piss pot of chem for next year and have it in the shop.

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                      #22
                      Nitrogen bought at $670 with 2/3ds delivered the rest to come next week. Phos $1075. It’s also to come next week. Liquid sulphur $470 not sure when it will arrive, I tried to add an extra load to the order knowing the price would be up but they couldn’t promise delivery this fall for the extra load.

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                        #23
                        Originally posted by Flatlander View Post
                        Nitrogen bought at $670 with 2/3ds delivered the rest to come next week. Phos $1075. It’s also to come next week. Liquid sulphur $470 not sure when it will arrive, I tried to add an extra load to the order knowing the price would be up but they couldn’t promise delivery this fall for the extra load.
                        $670 for 28-0-0?

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                          #24
                          Right or wrong, I bought all of our needs this week, just before another major jump. December delivery.

                          I tried to buy late summer, but couldn't get quotes, or could get quotes, but couldn't offer storage at any price till after harvest. Most places still can't even offer a price for any month right now.

                          Not happy about the prices paid, but I'm more concerned about supply not being available by spring, regardless of price. I'd rather be wrong by paying too much, than wrong by not being able to fertilizer next year.

                          And realistically, with grain prices essentially doubled, fertilizer still hasn't even caught up, so for those of us with crops this year, it isn't so hard to swallow.

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