Fertilizer Poll

[furrowtickler]

I tried to get a price yesterday, retailer said they couldn’t give me a quote because they were told from the higher ups there maybe no product available.

Question for u guys, our fall soil samples have come back with next to nothing left for nitrogen in top 6” of soil, ground was so dry that’s as far as probe would go. Wheat yield was Pathetic compared to yield goal and n application rate. Agronomists figure that the excessive heat this summer and drought, gased the n off out of the topsoil even though it was incorporated at couple inches prior to seeding, p and k levels are very good though, Is anyone else seeing similar results? Or have heard of such a thing? We use 46 for n.

I would definitely do a soil test in spring
Not sure I believe their theory
There is a desperate attempt from the industry to grab every cent of a farmers dollar so I’d be cautious on that.
We are waiting for the soil temps to cool off before we do any soil testing or pre buying of N. right or wrong , that’s what we are doing
Phos is being delivered now so we have it
Lots of application options for N and timing , not so much for phos

Not afraid at all to apply N on even after herbicide next June

[Robertbarlage]

If we don't get rain and lots of it we won't need fertilizer for next year! Just saying.

[Highlander]

Booked 75% of normal usage for November delivery. Urea October 2020 $425 , October 2021,$925. Phosphate October 2020, $690,October 2021, $1100.
Not sure if it was the right thing to do but thought we would hedge the risk somewhat and roll the dice on the last 25%. 4.5 inches of rain in August but still very dry here. Some analysts confident that there will be a pullback in prices midwinter. One can only hope. Haven’t done soil testing yet this fall but based on this years yields and plant growth thinking that we may see considerable residual nitrogen. Fingers crossed.

[Sodbuster]

No dry fertilizer booked yet, will try to get it done this week and hopefully delivery before it snows. Nh3 pricing for spring usually happens around Christmas, haven’t heard any prices yet for spring delivery

[GDR]

Remember that the fertilizer we add is only a portion of the crop usage. N is added with rainfall, which most of us didnt get and also when its dry we dont get the same lev of OM breakdown and release so perhaps more of the added N was used up on a poor crop than we would like to think. I've booked fert for December delivery, but am waiting on soil test results to see what's there.

[WiltonRanch]

Remember that the fertilizer we add is only a portion of the crop usage. N is added with rainfall, which most of us didnt get and also when its dry we dont get the same lev of OM breakdown and release so perhaps more of the added N was used up on a poor crop than we would like to think. I've booked fert for December delivery, but am waiting on soil test results to see what's there.

Hence soil tests now are a complete waste of money. Completely uneconomical to buy a crop especially when it is so dry. Have half a mind if I could afford it to fallow a field or two if moisture doesn’t improve. Spray a time or two through summer and work it late summer. Seems to work best for our country. Canola could be $25 but 0x$25 is $0. In 2002 the only crops that got combined here was on fallow. Have enough glyphosate for next year and more than enough if I plant less canola. Fertility levels were decent this spring and used good fertility on top of that to have a 50% crop. I can’t bring myself to sink $20 canola cheque back into overly inflated inputs for a shrinking margin. I’ve seen this rodeo before.

[helmsdale]

I'll soil test before freeze up. Itll make no difference... theres nothing to freeze. I'll be drilling cores rather than step-on probing anyway.

If they dont have any come spring then so be it. I'll try to scrounge up some phos for peas, and if theres no N, then maybe put some 20-0-0-24 down for starter and call it a day.

You can jack commodity prices to the moon, and if we dont end up with MASSIVE amounts of fall precip and snow, it'll all be money down the drain here!

Theres nothing, nada, zilch for moisture from the surface down to 4+ feet.

[helmsdale]

Theres nothing, nada, zilch for moisture from the surface down to 4+ feet.

This last year got my attention. If I do the same thing next year I may as well put the small time auction service on notice(RB doesnt deal with STOs like me).

[WiltonRanch]

I'll soil test before freeze up. Itll make no difference... theres nothing to freeze. I'll be drilling cores rather than step-on probing anyway.

If they dont have any come spring then so be it. I'll try to scrounge up some phos for peas, and if theres no N, then maybe put some 20-0-0-24 down for starter and call it a day.

You can jack commodity prices to the moon, and if we dont end up with MASSIVE amounts of fall precip and snow, it'll all be money down the drain here!

Theres nothing, nada, zilch for moisture from the surface down to 4+ feet.

You really wonder if input manufacturers are driving up prices in some aspects because they know they’ll be selling less and want to increase margins more so than high crop prices and increasing production costs.

[STR1]

All fertilizer needed for next year is on farm.

Not so worried about price going up or down, more worried about supplies.