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    #41
    Ourselves as farmers can afford to speculate since we are not working on margins. We create something from scratch. And most of us have assets to fall back on if we are wrong, or can store our products for longer.

    Fertlizer retailers are working on margins, very thin margins at that. If they speculate and buy high priced product, and by spring the price is lower, it is game over for that retailer. As happened in 2008 to many of them. They have one time per year to sell most of their physical product, which doesn't store well.

    If they are sitting on over priced inventory by spring, they have no choice but to blow it out at a loss. How many years of low single digits margins would it take to get back to even if they lose 20 to 50% in one year?

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      #42
      Originally posted by Sodbuster View Post
      Bought all our dry fertilizer for next year to be delivered this month. Quite a change from last year, but it’s better in my bin than scrambling in the spring to source product.
      11-52 - 2020-$590
      2021-$1080
      0-0-60. 2020-$430
      2021-$795
      21-0-0-24 2020-$370
      2021-$540
      I’m at the mercy of the fertilizer companies for Nh3, doesn’t sound promising with $1100 urea been tossed around.
      You must have booked that before September?

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        #43
        Booked last Monday, long term relationship with retailer and always take home my dry before Christmas.

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          #44
          This is a catch 22 situation. I could put down 100# of 46-0-0 and get an okay crop if we get some rain. If it doesn’t rain I’m not out much. If it rains a bunch I’ll wish I put down the juice. Fertilizer retailers probably wondering the same. I have a few fields where I really spare no expense but others is highly dependent on moisture situation. Wish it was all level and not solonetzic or calcareous. I hope enough of you are optimistic enough to guarantee a supply of available fertilizer this spring.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Sodbuster View Post
            Bought all our dry fertilizer for next year to be delivered this month. Quite a change from last year, but it’s better in my bin than scrambling in the spring to source product.
            11-52 - 2020-$590
            2021-$1080
            0-0-60. 2020-$430
            2021-$795
            21-0-0-24 2020-$370
            2021-$540
            I’m at the mercy of the fertilizer companies for Nh3, doesn’t sound promising with $1100 urea been tossed around.
            46-0-0 2020 $465 2021 $990.
            11-52. 2020 $645. 2021 $1130.
            0-0-60 2020 $450. 2021 $795.
            20.5-0-0-24 2020 $365 2021 $590.

            Yes quite a change from last year.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
              46-0-0 2020 $465 2021 $990.
              11-52. 2020 $645. 2021 $1130.
              0-0-60 2020 $450. 2021 $795.
              20.5-0-0-24 2020 $365 2021 $590.

              Yes quite a change from last year.
              How recent are those prices?

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                #47
                Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                How recent are those prices?
                Prices were agreed to on Oct.7. Different retailer than last year. Last years retailer had a higher price and earliest available product was December.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by helmsdale View Post
                  I'll soil test before freeze up. Itll make no difference... theres nothing to freeze. I'll be drilling cores rather than step-on probing anyway.

                  If they dont have any come spring then so be it. I'll try to scrounge up some phos for peas, and if theres no N, then maybe put some 20-0-0-24 down for starter and call it a day.

                  You can jack commodity prices to the moon, and if we dont end up with MASSIVE amounts of fall precip and snow, it'll all be money down the drain here!

                  Theres nothing, nada, zilch for moisture from the surface down to 4+ feet.
                  Moisture levels here are pretty much the same. Some rain or snow would be great right now. Sure been waiting a long time for it , but..... We are one day closer!

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                    #49
                    Prices have gone insane in the last week. Retailer said over 1300 for Phos

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                      #50
                      Im thinking the fertilizer industry will have to do something to start moving product. Retailers are not filling up because they don’t want to get shafted with overpriced inventory and farmers will not buy at these prices. The dry conditions may kick the fertilizer industry in the ass if we don’t get any significant rain or snow by Christmas. How much fertilizer will you be putting in the ground if its bone dry at seeding.

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