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    Ocean Freight Plunges

    In the past ten (10) days, the cost of shipping a container between China and the U.S. has been reported cut in-half from $15,000 to $8,000. Why? Lack of demand from China.

    Is inflation transitory? You betcha (IMO) . . . .

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    So are these shortages then the result of suppliers holding up inventory to create tight supplies?

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      #3
      Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
      In the past ten (10) days, the cost of shipping a container between China and the U.S. has been reported cut in-half from $15,000 to $8,000. Why? Lack of demand from China.

      Is inflation transitory? You betcha (IMO) . . . .
      Lack of energy cutting production. They have no electricity to produce goods.

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          #5
          Does everyone think China's pissing match with Australia over coal has come back to haunt them ?

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            #6
            Originally posted by macdon02 View Post
            Lack of energy cutting production. They have no electricity to produce goods.
            So in this scenario the cost of energy and goods continue to rise because of lack of supply. Errol I do see potential for lower economic performance but the value of goods will remain high for a while yet imo.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
              So in this scenario the cost of energy and goods continue to rise because of lack of supply. Errol I do see potential for lower economic performance but the value of goods will remain high for a while yet imo.
              Yes, believe so . . . . But what may happen is we all begin to see cracks in-the-armour. Iron ore collapse started the fallout. And one by one, we will start to see commodity prices fail. Energy is unpredictable, but not from a lack of supply. but from a lack of transportation. Shortage of truckers. Real estate is a sitting duck (IMO).

              Asia financial fallout is real. Their buying led us up, their lack-of-buying will lead us down . . . .

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                #8
                IMHO not a lack of anything. The logistics have collapsed. Too many people sitting at home retired or not interested in working.

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                  #9
                  The cost of shipping continues to drop . . . .

                  More signs of easing. Shanghai-to-Los Angeles trade route, the rate
                  for a 40-foot container sank by another $1,000 last week toward
                  $11,000, more than a 8% drop from the prior week. This is now the steepest
                  weekly fall since March 2020.

                  Ocean freight is still several times more expensive than it
                  was pre-pandemic. So are these latest declines in global shipping
                  marking a plateau, a seasonal turn lower or start of a steeper correction?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
                    IMHO not a lack of anything. The logistics have collapsed. Too many people sitting at home retired or not interested in working.
                    Not interested in working because they were collecting free government money . It’s a cycle that’s nearly ruined certain cultures .

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