A question to ranchers.

[the big wheel]

Say what you will Big Wheel, your reaction to Flea Beetle’s posts is a little over the top. While I agree there is no way a farmer can be prepared for a 4-5 year drought and maybe his posts came across to you as insensitive it didn’t in my opinion justify your insults. And by the way my daily driver is a 2008 GMC gas job, the dodge pulls the cattle trailer, breaks down too often to be a daily driver lol.

That’s fine hamloc I was offended not
Only for myself but for neighbours we ve lost
And the ones that are through no fault of
Their own not gonna make it financially through
This. And these are people multi generation farms
No new equipment no big purchases no holiday
Types that really are rhe backbone of our community.
We ve got a few outsiders moved in and it isn’t
Good already spraying other people s fields
Bidding up rents because they carry their better
Crop insurance from the good area they farm when if
The former neighbours would have had that coverage
They’d still be here. It’s not just drought we ve had
Hail etc. The drought here is unreal.
Would that not piss you off? It does me.
Again have a great day.
My Chevy would outpull any tin can dodge 24/7.
Lmao!

[bucket]

Governments love seeing these discussions here and in public.

Their job of doing nothing becomes so much easier for the demise of an industry.


I hope for everyone's sake they never have a wreck and wonder what to do....there will be no one left to speak on your behalf.

I am amazed at younger guys wanting more land at high prices from guys that bought at low prices and still had problems over the years.

I seen this before and guys only stayed in business with a giant write down.

A guy buys at 40k a quarter and yet it makes even more sense for a young guy to buy him out at 300k a quarter.

Pastures at 200k for an industry on its knees.

It's puzzling.

[newguy]

Rancher next door who has zero water is hauling from
river 25 approx miles away
No water in well and did search and didn’t not
Find water lower. So wants to haul by tanker
And fill pits up was told nothing for hauling
But you could trench and get half or
He could use the 200 dollars per animal so
would that be included in the 285? He then
Has to chose between water or bales has already sold
1/3 of herd to USA.

second payment on numbers as of December 31st.water hauling is an expense.Program has been wishy washy from the beginning.Think they made rules and farmers picked hokes in them so they keep adjusting rules.

[flea beetle]

Rancher next door who has zero water is hauling from
river 25 approx miles away
No water in well and did search and didn’t not
Find water lower. So wants to haul by tanker
And fill pits up was told nothing for hauling
But you could trench and get half or
He could use the 200 dollars per animal so
would that be included in the 285? He then
Has to chose between water or bales has already sold
1/3 of herd to USA.

My question is how come your neighbour didn’t have an extra years worth of hay on hand? Any responsible animal owner does. They were practically giving away hay last year. But was probably too cheap to pay the $30/bale trucking bill. Now it is $150-200/bale plus trucking and he needs a bail out?

I thought you drove a 1980 Datsun. You point fingers and say LIAR, but maybe you just subconsciously feel guilty about you yourself lying all the time?

I wasn’t going to bite, I told myself I wasn’t going to bite, but I couldn’t resist…

[the big wheel]

My question is how come your neighbour didn’t have an extra years worth of hay on hand? Any responsible animal owner does. They were practically giving away hay last year. But was probably too cheap to pay the $30/bale trucking bill. Now it is $150-200/bale plus trucking and he needs a bail out?

I thought you drove a 1980 Datsun. You point fingers and say LIAR, but maybe you just subconsciously feel guilty about you yourself lying all the time?

I wasn’t going to bite, I told myself I wasn’t going to bite, but I couldn’t resist…

Oh my God! Here’s the deal goof. Ummm
I m not a cattle guy maybe some of the cattle
Guys can explain to you what happens in 3 year
Drought? Second year comes around and your feeding
In august instead of what ever October? Third year
Pastures are destroyed from first 2 years so no feed
No bales your feeding first part of July. Are you
Comprehending this? I don’t know
But I don’t think a bale of hay has been 30 dollars
For like 10 years??? I can’t really say but I think
Last year was like 100 to 120? Year before was
Like 80 to 100 I could be corrected but in this
Area with nothing trucking here would be crazy to
Add.

I do drive a 1980 Datsun as my luxury take lady
Out on the town ride. The Chevy does the work.
Ever put a slip tank on a Datsun? Lmao
Maybe Datsuns are before your wet eared time.

Is there any inbreeding in your family? Asking
For a neighbor friend.

[the big wheel]

So here’s the deal man! If you don’t start behaving I m going to talk to
Your mommy and daddy I m sure they are nice folks.
They will put you in the corner for awhile or or or
Make you pay some rent. So there

[flea beetle]

Oh my God! Here’s the deal goof. Ummm
I m not a cattle guy maybe some of the cattle
Guys can explain to you what happens in 3 year
Drought? Second year comes around and your feeding
In august instead of what ever October? Third year
Pastures are destroyed from first 2 years so no feed
No bales your feeding first part of July. Are you
Comprehending this? I don’t know
But I don’t think a bale of hay has been 30 dollars
For like 10 years??? I can’t really say but I think
Last year was like 100 to 120? Year before was
Like 80 to 100 I could be corrected but in this
Area with nothing trucking here would be crazy to
Add.

I do drive a 1980 Datsun as my luxury take lady
Out on the town ride. The Chevy does the work.
Ever put a slip tank on a Datsun? Lmao
Maybe Datsuns are before your wet eared time.

Is there any inbreeding in your family? Asking
For a neighbor friend.

Can you even comprehend what you read? The $30 was for trucking, not the bale. $30 trucking should get you a couple hundred km radius of your drought zone. Do you understand the word radius before I go on?

Even at $70/bale (cost of the bale) which was high last year, you are all in $100/bale delivered. Again, now it is at $150-$200 plus trucking and we are supposed to bail out your neighbour? He had all the opportunity in the world to cut his hay cost in half.

I will try explain it to you another way. See if we can crack through that thick skull.

Joe dumbo, pulls the dipstick on his Datsun. It reads below the add mark. It has been burning oil for 3 years now, and he knows it will go lower. He says to himself, I will fill it another day. A week passes and he still didn’t top up the engine oil. Hops in with the old lady to go on a date. Half way to town the engine seizes. Is it the governments bill to fix the Datsun, or Joe’s?

[the big wheel]

Can you even comprehend what you read? The $30 was for trucking, not the bale. $30 trucking should get you a couple hundred km radius of your drought zone. Do you understand the word radius before I go on?

Even at $70/bale (cost of the bale) which was high last year, you are all in $100/bale delivered. Again, now it is at $150-$200 plus trucking and we are supposed to bail out your neighbour? He had all the opportunity in the world to cut his hay cost in half.

I will try explain it to you another way. See if we can crack through that thick skull.

Joe dumbo, pulls the dipstick on his Datsun. It reads below the add mark. It has been burning oil for 3 years now, and he knows it will go lower. He says to himself, I will fill it another day. A week passes and he still didn’t top up the engine oil. Hops in with the old lady to go on a date. Half way to town the engine seizes. Is it the governments bill to fix the Datsun, or Joe’s?

Why would joe pull you to check the oil? You guys gay?

[flea beetle]

Why would joe pull you to check the oil? You guys gay?

I will take your hesitation to answer as the answer sinking in, and not wanting to admit that you are wrong.

[the big wheel]

Here’s the deal man……ummmm
You bet!!!

[flea beetle]

Here’s the deal man……ummmm
You bet!!!

Ladies and gentlemen!…we might have made a breakthrough!

[flea beetle]

Just give it a minute… you can tell he is still processing like an old Commodore 64.