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    #16
    Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
    Rancher next door who has zero water is hauling from
    river 25 approx miles away
    No water in well and did search and didn’t not
    Find water lower. So wants to haul by tanker
    And fill pits up was told nothing for hauling
    But you could trench and get half or
    He could use the 200 dollars per animal so
    would that be included in the 285? He then
    Has to chose between water or bales has already sold
    1/3 of herd to USA.
    My question is how come your neighbour didn’t have an extra years worth of hay on hand? Any responsible animal owner does. They were practically giving away hay last year. But was probably too cheap to pay the $30/bale trucking bill. Now it is $150-200/bale plus trucking and he needs a bail out?

    I thought you drove a 1980 Datsun. You point fingers and say LIAR, but maybe you just subconsciously feel guilty about you yourself lying all the time?

    I wasn’t going to bite, I told myself I wasn’t going to bite, but I couldn’t resist…
    Last edited by flea beetle; Oct 3, 2021, 16:11.

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      #17
      Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
      My question is how come your neighbour didn’t have an extra years worth of hay on hand? Any responsible animal owner does. They were practically giving away hay last year. But was probably too cheap to pay the $30/bale trucking bill. Now it is $150-200/bale plus trucking and he needs a bail out?

      I thought you drove a 1980 Datsun. You point fingers and say LIAR, but maybe you just subconsciously feel guilty about you yourself lying all the time?

      I wasn’t going to bite, I told myself I wasn’t going to bite, but I couldn’t resist…
      Oh my God! Here’s the deal goof. Ummm
      I m not a cattle guy maybe some of the cattle
      Guys can explain to you what happens in 3 year
      Drought? Second year comes around and your feeding
      In august instead of what ever October? Third year
      Pastures are destroyed from first 2 years so no feed
      No bales your feeding first part of July. Are you
      Comprehending this? I don’t know
      But I don’t think a bale of hay has been 30 dollars
      For like 10 years??? I can’t really say but I think
      Last year was like 100 to 120? Year before was
      Like 80 to 100 I could be corrected but in this
      Area with nothing trucking here would be crazy to
      Add.

      I do drive a 1980 Datsun as my luxury take lady
      Out on the town ride. The Chevy does the work.
      Ever put a slip tank on a Datsun? Lmao
      Maybe Datsuns are before your wet eared time.

      Is there any inbreeding in your family? Asking
      For a neighbor friend.

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        #18
        So here’s the deal man! If you don’t start behaving I m going to talk to
        Your mommy and daddy I m sure they are nice folks.
        They will put you in the corner for awhile or or or
        Make you pay some rent. So there

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          #19
          Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
          Oh my God! Here’s the deal goof. Ummm
          I m not a cattle guy maybe some of the cattle
          Guys can explain to you what happens in 3 year
          Drought? Second year comes around and your feeding
          In august instead of what ever October? Third year
          Pastures are destroyed from first 2 years so no feed
          No bales your feeding first part of July. Are you
          Comprehending this? I don’t know
          But I don’t think a bale of hay has been 30 dollars
          For like 10 years??? I can’t really say but I think
          Last year was like 100 to 120? Year before was
          Like 80 to 100 I could be corrected but in this
          Area with nothing trucking here would be crazy to
          Add.

          I do drive a 1980 Datsun as my luxury take lady
          Out on the town ride. The Chevy does the work.
          Ever put a slip tank on a Datsun? Lmao
          Maybe Datsuns are before your wet eared time.

          Is there any inbreeding in your family? Asking
          For a neighbor friend.
          Can you even comprehend what you read? The $30 was for trucking, not the bale. $30 trucking should get you a couple hundred km radius of your drought zone. Do you understand the word radius before I go on?

          Even at $70/bale (cost of the bale) which was high last year, you are all in $100/bale delivered. Again, now it is at $150-$200 plus trucking and we are supposed to bail out your neighbour? He had all the opportunity in the world to cut his hay cost in half.

          I will try explain it to you another way. See if we can crack through that thick skull.

          Joe dumbo, pulls the dipstick on his Datsun. It reads below the add mark. It has been burning oil for 3 years now, and he knows it will go lower. He says to himself, I will fill it another day. A week passes and he still didn’t top up the engine oil. Hops in with the old lady to go on a date. Half way to town the engine seizes. Is it the governments bill to fix the Datsun, or Joe’s?

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            #20
            Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
            Can you even comprehend what you read? The $30 was for trucking, not the bale. $30 trucking should get you a couple hundred km radius of your drought zone. Do you understand the word radius before I go on?

            Even at $70/bale (cost of the bale) which was high last year, you are all in $100/bale delivered. Again, now it is at $150-$200 plus trucking and we are supposed to bail out your neighbour? He had all the opportunity in the world to cut his hay cost in half.

            I will try explain it to you another way. See if we can crack through that thick skull.

            Joe dumbo, pulls the dipstick on his Datsun. It reads below the add mark. It has been burning oil for 3 years now, and he knows it will go lower. He says to himself, I will fill it another day. A week passes and he still didn’t top up the engine oil. Hops in with the old lady to go on a date. Half way to town the engine seizes. Is it the governments bill to fix the Datsun, or Joe’s?
            Why would joe pull you to check the oil? You guys gay?

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              #21
              Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
              Why would joe pull you to check the oil? You guys gay?
              I will take your hesitation to answer as the answer sinking in, and not wanting to admit that you are wrong.

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                #22
                Here’s the deal man……ummmm
                You bet!!!

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
                  Here’s the deal man……ummmm
                  You bet!!!
                  Ladies and gentlemen!…we might have made a breakthrough!

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                    #24
                    Just give it a minute… you can tell he is still processing like an old Commodore 64.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
                      Just give it a minute… you can tell he is still processing like an old Commodore 64.
                      You got me man!!!
                      I have no idea what you’re really asking even I was talking
                      About water I have no idea how many bales or what he paid
                      For them.
                      But to use your meth induced logic he should buy enough
                      230 dollar bales for next year as well because they might be
                      300 next year? Especially since we all know what the weather
                      Will be next year, this fall, this winter?
                      I give up you are one smart dude you win.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
                        You got me man!!!
                        I have no idea what you’re really asking even I was talking
                        About water I have no idea how many bales or what he paid
                        For them.
                        But to use your meth induced logic he should buy enough
                        230 dollar bales for next year as well because they might be
                        300 next year? Especially since we all know what the weather
                        Will be next year, this fall, this winter?
                        I give up you are one smart dude you win.
                        You said he had to choose between water and bales…

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
                          You said he had to choose between water and bales…
                          Ya and I have no idea what he has for bales or needs????
                          You got me good I can’t answer this!

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                            #28
                            I guess his floppy wasn’t formatted properly and couldn’t load the data.🙄

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                              #29
                              After the 1995 drought our farm has always kept provisions for a year ahead. Lots of straw and barley as it keeps longer than hay or greenfeed. Silage would be ideal but not enough cattle for that. All said I’m more worried about grass never growing next season. Already in the works to cut herd 15% this fall through heavy cull and probably another 7% after calving. Days past we would fight tooth and nail to get them through, find grass on the reserve too. It never ended up we made out well and those were days when cows made reasonable returns vs expenses. I just am not feeling the love like I once did for the industry. I just get this feeling it’s on the way out unless you can do something different with it. The old generation is on the way out and the next is hanging by a thread. It’s like being the typical Catholic suffering through life to hope for death to end it. Lol. Numbers have been shrinking for years and best seen by feeders feeding calves to record weights. Every trauma producers face shaves more off the herd and no one replaces the numbers. Aside from this drought this industry is shrinking and will continue. It is already pushed back to the land only suited for cows.

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                                #30
                                I fully admit I don't have two years of hay and don’t know when I’ll get there if ever. Hard with rapidly expanding animal numbers and limited funds.

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