John Deere X9

[Sheepwheat]

Is it just me or do most think the investment in these machines is insane? What will the return have to be to justify the investment.

4 dollar an acre fuel savings! Lol

I don’t get today’s farming mindset. I just don’t get it at all.

[bucket]

Is it just me or do most think the investment in these machines is insane? What will the return have to be to justify the investment.

I agree with you on this agstar. Prices are retarded. I remember saying no to a 15000 trade difference on two years from a JD 9500 to a JD 9510 and that was for a decal change. Guys don't blink for 50 to 75k a year now.

On other posts . I had a neighbour that justified machinery by reduction in fuel costs....He doesn't farm anymore. Just saying.

[SASKFARMER]

Compared to all other equipment they are essential and needed on every farm Dollar per acre they have to harvest and no two farms are the same. Plus Trudeau has in the budget something for taxes?

[jazz]

Is it just me or do most think the investment in these machines is insane? What will the return have to be to justify the investment.

I am with you. The thought of a million dollar combine actually depresses me. Dont care how many bells and whistles and chips they stuff into them.

But I will happily take a used S series combine if they are coming in.

[Herc]

Is it just me or do most think the investment in these machines is insane? What will the return have to be to justify the investment.

Alot of farms are still trying to lower the taxes on their 2020 crop. Even if they sold canola for $15 average, north of us had 60-65 bpa averages. Some did wait and will be $18-20 avg. Alot of profit occurred from 2020 and alot of deferred grain happened. 2021 may have been a wreck but still have to lower the tax bill somehow.

[agstar77]

My only guess is we are still mesmerized by shiny new toys with memories from when we little and had a ride on the big machine. The drive to ever bigger does not seem to have stopped. This will not end well if conditions don't improve. There may be X 9s on the lot next fall.

[Sheepwheat]

I can combine the value of my combine in about four hours in 8 dollar barley.

How many hours to combine a million bucks of barley, even with the whopping four dollar an acre fuel savings?

I wager more than four hours. But what do I know. Lol Boggles the mind that farmers need “help” but I don’t know many any more without hoes, cats, etc. burning piles of fuel changing the whole aquifer recharge system by draining forty acre sloughs.

I dunno, just ticked off these days.

[Partners]

Someone has to buy new so that there is used..
If you can afford it buy it.
As we get older if you can afford or want it buy it.
Fun to watch neighbors with new stuff..
Only so many yrs all of us have in this game.
And yrs are flying by..
Enjoy before its to late..
We all have different wants and needs.

[Sheepwheat]

Someone has to buy new so that there is used..
If you can afford it buy it.
As we get older if you can afford or want it buy it.
Fun to watch neighbors with new stuff..
Only so many yrs all of us have in this game.
And yrs are flying by..
Enjoy before its to late..
We all have different wants and needs.

I would argue we all have the exact same needs. But very, very different wants.

I would like my well to remain bored deep enough to access an aquifer that has not failed for 100 years.

They want a few more acres of land, to go along with the other eight thousand they have to have.

If my well fails, it’s a big deal. I guess if theirs fails, nothing a half million from the bank won’t fix.

[bucket]

Someone has to buy new so that there is used..

So true.

Thats why when SHTF like this year , an adhoc payment is so effective. Money moves quickly to the economy and better trades become available.

My thinking is , if the government can buy a new Electric Arc furnace for both Dofasco and Algoma, sending a few bucks out so farmers can upgrade equipment and help others that need it, it is good for the economy out here as a whole.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I can combine the value of my combine in about four hours in 8 dollar barley.

How many hours to combine a million bucks of barley, even with the whopping four dollar an acre fuel savings?

I wager more than four hours. But what do I know. Lol Boggles the mind that farmers need “help” but I don’t know many any more without hoes, cats, etc. burning piles of fuel changing the whole aquifer recharge system by draining forty acre sloughs.

I dunno, just ticked off these days.

A few years ago when one of my 8460's plugged so tight in green wet cold tough straight cut canola, and I set it on fire to burn it out( successfully), I justified the risk of getting it back going for another hopper full by the fact that one hopper of canola at that time was worth almost as much as I'd paid for the combine. Same thing when combining in the snow, frost, mud, rocks, roots etc.

Have two combines worth considerably more now, and I miss that frame of mind that it really doesn't matter how much abuse they get because they are worthless to start with.

[furrowtickler]

I would argue we all have the exact same needs. But very, very different wants.

I would like my well to remain bored deep enough to access an aquifer that has not failed for 100 years.

They want a few more acres of land, to go along with the other eight thousand they have to have.

If my well fails, it’s a big deal. I guess if theirs fails, nothing a half million from the bank won’t fix.

Maybe its a thing in your area , but no one here drains big sloughs , seasonal wet spots get worked up but that’s about it .
Every area is much different.